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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-20-2017, 12:41 AM Thread Starter
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Value added jobs?

Open to opinions. Back in the time before I retired we used to have to write the product justification proposal.
Head count, equipment etc were included in the proposal.

Most important were people that were value added. Some quick examples product engineers were usually considered value added. Designers, shop people..assemblers, machinists etc. were value added.

Janitors, many managers, cafeteria workers etc. weren't usually rated as value added.

Seems to me our country has drifted over about 30 years to the point where IMO most of the value added careers are in the trades.


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Using IT as an example, the field tech is not value added, whereas the business intelligence analyst is. The question is whether that makes the field tech any more or less necessary to the operation?

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You are taking about the difference between fixed and variable cost.

Each company has their own method of dividing fixed and variable cost. For example, salaried employess may be a fixed cost in one company and a vaiiable cost in another.

Back to value added.

Examples of "value added" not related to product manufacture:

Janitors are fired as non essential. You go into the restroom everyday and there is no TP. Is the janitor value added or not?

An accountant doesnt work on a product line, doesnt sell products, doesnt ever touch the product, but processes the payment of the raw materials necessary to produce the product. Value added or not?

Payroll clerk makes sure you get payed. Value added or not?

Your factory is in a high crime area, petty theft, car break ins and muggings are common. You have security, a fenced, gated and secure compound. Value added or not?

Value added is a slippery slope.



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You are taking about the difference between fixed and variable cost.

Each company has their own method of dividing fixed and variable cost. For example, salaried employess may be a fixed cost in one company and a vaiiable cost in another.

Back to value added.

Examples of "value added" not related to product manufacture:

Janitors are fired as non essential. You go into the restroom everyday and there is no TP. Is the janitor value added or not?

An accountant doesnt work on a product line, doesnt sell products, doesnt ever touch the product, but processes the payment of the raw materials necessary to produce the product. Value added or not?

Payroll clerk makes sure you get payed. Value added or not?

Your factory is in a high crime area, petty theft, car break ins and muggings are common. You have security, a fenced, gated and secure compound. Value added or not?

Value added is a slippery slope.
I have this type of discussion at my office all the time. I always make the argument that these types of people are like the Water and Power co. You don't notice them until they aren't there to do their jobs. If you cut them, now you can't do yours (or maybe you can, with much more difficulty).
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Depends on the business/product. At a McDonalds the person frying the burger is adding value to the beef patty. The building the burger is made in mortgage, rent, property tax, utilities are generally not considered value added but overhead. If the burger fyer is paid enough it becomes worthwhile to do the job with a robot/automation.

The people constructing the building are definitely value to the building materials, added jobs/people.

Some seem pretty clear to me at least. Hollywood?
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