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Old 08-11-2005, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just bought nine 14 ounce cans for $50. How many cans would it take to do an empty system in a Mustang?

Any advice on storing this stuff? Do I want to keep it in an air conditioned area?
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A 65 system holds 1.75# of freon. That is about 4 or 5 cans? Freon 12 is runnning about $50.00 per pound out here in CA. Sounds like you got a great deal.

Keep the cans in a cool dark area...
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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here in florida a 30# jug is about 350 dollars,
but i wouldent buy it there are enough replacments that work as well or better ( not 134 a it sucks!) there is 409A 414B and freez -12 all work as well or better in a r-12 system all are 100% compatable and all are a hell of a lot cheaper, i personally like 414B it gets the air at the vents down to 37 degrees 409 and freeze -12 i get the temp at the vents to 39 degrees!

oh and dont belive the thermal difirential people tell you about it is common for people to talk about a 20-25 degree seperation being all that you can get and that is not true, there are many factors to consider, if that was tru and here in florida you can fry a egg on your hood the 100+ degree temp air coming off the road going over a 150 degree hood into the cowl would only get to 80 degrees, there are many factors evaporator area air flow actual evap temp humidity it is a complex equation!
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here in florida a 30# jug is about 350 dollars,
... you might want to check again as I do not think you can buy virgin R12 at that price . I just sold a 30# cylinder at work for $729 . Nice sale but not a lot of margin $$ . 30# R134 is currently at $289 . Small cans of R12 are $ 23 .
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I have converted several older systems to the r134a, with great results, but I have never heard of the 414b stuff. Where do you find it, and is it a direct replacemet with the r12 and the newer r134a systems? I hear you can use propane, too...Not really ready to go there yet.
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Old 08-12-2005, 11:00 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Be careful who you sell R12 Freon too. You have to be licensed to purchase and handle R12 and are required to keep records last I remember. There is a seperate certification for Automotive and Stationary licensing for R12.

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Old 08-12-2005, 11:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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No industry body approves any substitute for R12 other than R134A. A properly converted R12 to R134A system will work just fine on all but the most extreme applications.
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wow your getting screwed i can get it in 1 pound cans of 134A from the auto parts store here in kissimmee 7.89 each x 30 the expensive way would only be 236.70 and i ca buy a 30 lb jug at the supply house for 129.00
i just bought 2 30 lb jugs at the zepher hills car show for 350 each. so i guess i sell them to you!
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Old 08-12-2005, 07:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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yes and DONT, propane works but dont try it it is very dangerous under accident conditions!!
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Old 08-12-2005, 07:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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sorry your incorrect. see the following on 414B

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and heres the link
http://www.r-414b.net/
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heres a link to r-12 30 # jugs for 477.00 you might want to buy them here to sell them!

http://www.r22.org/
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414 is about 280 bucks for 25 ibs.!
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i ca buy a 30 lb jug at the supply house for 129.00
i just bought 2 30 lb jugs at the zepher hills car show for 350 each. so i guess i sell them to you!
?? if I read this correctly, it sounds like you got hosed if you paid 350 and can buy them for 129.00......
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sorry should have clarified, i can buy a 30# drum of 134A for 129!
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