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Old 03-01-2011, 03:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well looking for a first car, trying not to spend no more then 6,000 on car and mods.
Looking to get a fox body, but don't know what year.
I know some of them didn't have AC and other minor things.
Well would this "Project" these are my plans
Buy car, fix engine and try to increase horsepower to 260-280 (possible?)
Once that is complete Suspension (advice on some good ones?)
Then redo interior maybe leather seats and redo spedo, dash, and sound system.
Then last but not least paint job.

Also this will be my daily driver and maybe once a month take it to the drag strip.

So any advice, heads up, anything to say please say so <3 thanks boys.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Don't know what year". Since the engineering is all the same it doesn't matter. But, seems the 87's to 93's look the best. The 93 Cobra model would be the best for future value. You can find these cars on Ebay, Craigslist, local paper already with some of the mods you want.
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Welcome to VMF. $6000 total for car plus all you mentioned will require very careful money management. Otherwise sounds like a fun project.
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First EFI Mustang was 1986. All 5.0L LX/GTs had Speed Density EEC-IV processor control from 1986-1988 --with the exception of '88 California-built 5.0Ls. They were the first to come with Mass Air EEC-IV control. From 1989-1993, all 49-state Fox bodied 5.0L Mustangs came with Mass Air control.

If you don't intend to modify the engine, Speed Density will work fine. If you plan engine mods though, the Speed Density EEC-IV processor will have a hard time controlling the engine. Mass Air control, on the other hand, does not have this problem and you can make any changes [heads, cam, intake, exhaust, etc.] without EEC-IV control problems.
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+1 on the '89-93 models. Mass is a big improvement over speed density. the forged pistons come standard in the HO to about '92/'93. look for sub-frame cracks in the box area where the control arms attach.....these are tough cars, but were mass produced, so electrical gremlins now are common....engines are good and tough to beat, even with mods and many, many hard launches....have fun....
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Corral.net is will tell you everything you would need to know about a fox body.

I have owned two and love them. I would shoot for an 89-93 lx hatch or notch. The GTs don't have an enduring look, they look very 80s. If I got a bone stock one, my order of ops would be as follows 1) subframe connectors 2) 3.55 or 3.73 gears 3) shifter 4) h-pipe/headers 5) Tmoss Ported lower intake 6) Better heads

Once you get into suspension, new bushings/ball joints (it is old!), caster camber plates, strut tower brace, koni or bilstein shocks and struts with matching springs.

For paint one the cheap, take it apart for the painter.

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I had an '80 Turbo Capri(also a fox) give to me by my dad when I sourced his '86 SVO. I like the lines better than the Mustang. The later ones are gonna eat into your budget more. For the strip, go with a coupe(it's lighter which makes it cheaper to go fast). The chassis is the same through the years. You could make a '79 look like a newer one very easily. Luckily, they are plentiful. You could go f.i. but you COULD find any '70's ford truck or wagon and take the stock 2v 460 out of it for a lot less. It won't handle like a small block but you didn't say you were auto-xing, either.
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Don't get an 86 GT, it has flat top pistons and special heads that make upgrades a lot more expensive.
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so 89-93 hatch or notch?
i think i might look for a hatch because the way the trunk opens.

what kind of models were there
the
LX SVO and GT only right?

more info please and thanks
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so 89-93 hatch or notch?
i think i might look for a hatch because the way the trunk opens.

what kind of models were there
the
LX SVO and GT only right?

more info please and thanks
The SVO was a turbocharged 2.3L 4-cylinder Mustang that was produced from 1984-1986. The '89-'93 GT/LX 5.0L Mustangs would be a better choice for [body] parts availability and performance. 1993 was the first year for the SVT Cobra. There was also a '93 Cobra R, but only 107 units of it were produced [available in red body color only --chances of buying a '93 Cobra R is probably slim, though].

Improvements to the T-5 synchros and gear alloy content took place in 1990, so the '90-'93 models are better in this aspect if looking for a Fox 5.0 with a stock manual 5-spd. transmission. 1st gear ratio in 5.0L GT/LX models was 3.35:1. Overdrive ratio [5th gear] in GT/LX 5.0L is .68:1]. SVT Cobra T-5 1st gear ratio is 2.95:1. Cobra overdrive ratio [5th gear] is .62:1.

My '90 GT [with the stock '87-'90 15" 16-spoke factory wheels. I also removed the stock 'louvered' GT tailights and replaced them with LX tail lights]:



My '90 GT after I swapped the 15" wheels for factory 16" 5-spoke wheels:


All 5.0L GT Mustangs came standard with a Traction-lok differential. Traction-lok was optional on 5.0L LX models.

Only the '84-'86 Mustang SVO and '93 Cobra Rs came with 5-lugs. All other Fox-bodied Mustangs had 4-lug wheels/brakes. However, you can upgrade the 5.0L Mustang to 5-lugs by swapping on two front rotors from a Lincoln Mk VII and swapping out the 4-lug rear axles with (2) driver's side 5-lug axles/drums from the Ford Ranger pickups. --Parts pictured below:
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"Don't know what year". Since the engineering is all the same it doesn't matter. But, seems the 87's to 93's look the best. The 93 Cobra model would be the best for future value. You can find these cars on Ebay, Craigslist, local paper already with some of the mods you want.
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One other note. If you care about creature comforts, the `89 is the last year of the tilt column because `90-up have airbags. If you're tall, or a big guy, it's tougher to get in and out of these cars without the tilt. `90 the speedo is upped to 140mph.

`91 was the start of the bigger pony wheels, so the front fender opening towards the front bottom of the wheel opening is clearanced more. Also, as a result the GT ground effects piece that goes there is also clearanced. However you can swap that piece or just trim the fender to go with bigger wheel/tire combos.
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Beautiful car Ultrastang! The upgrades are subtle, but nicely done. Never did care for those louvered taillights or the stock wheels. You've hit the nail on the head (like Ford SHOULD have done it!).

BTW, a lot of folks don't know (or recall), but '85 was technically the first year for EFI on a Mustang. Now, before everyone starts calling BS, read on. '86 was the first year for sequential EFI. The mid to late year '85's came with throttle body EFI if you bought an automatic. The manual tranny cars still came with the 4v (last year). With that said, they're junk! Look at something else.

I went looking for a new Mustang towards the end of the '85 model year. I wanted a 4v car with a manual tranny. All the dealers had remaining were the automatics..with throttle body EFI. I waited until the '86's came out an bought a new GT.

Mr. Ah, I'd agree with the others, look for an 89-93 5.0 LX coupe. Other than the Cobra's, they're the fastest cars right out of the box. A true sleeper car. If you want forged pistons, '92 was the last year. Mods and support are plentiful in the aftermarket for these years. As others have said, they're MAF EFI systems. Good luck with your search, they're plentiful!
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I'm going to look for a 89
cause i'm tall
do 89 have some airbags?
i want saftey car aswell :O
LX is lighter then a GT right?
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I'm going to look for a 89
cause i'm tall
do 89 have some airbags?
i want saftey car aswell :O
LX is lighter then a GT right?
No. Airbags didn't get installed until 1990-up. This is when tilt steering went away for the Fox bodies. [tilt steering returned in the SN95 Mustangs, '94-up].

I had an '89 GT before I got the '90 GT. --just from a personal opinion stand-point, '87-'89 Mustang front seat head rests are big and ugly compared to '90-'93. Obviously, seats can be swapped between year models. Not only are the '87-'89 headrests big and ugly, they also limit your ability to see out from inside the car.

Also, early 1990 model GTs [like mine] don't come with arm rests on the center console. later in the '90 model year, Ford began reinstalling them. I thought I would miss the armrest when I got the '90 GT, but I discovered that I no longer banged my elbow into it during 'spirited' shifting. --Look at most any Fox Mustang console and it's likely the latch on the lid is broken, and this is the most likely reason why.



Coupes or LX hatchbacks being lighter than the GT body doesn't really mean anything unless you are racing for a living or unless you just want a slight edge as an amateur bracket racer. I suspect your plans for the Fox would be primarily for steet use, and little to possibly no use on the track. I think the coupes and LXs are ok looking but not as good looking as the GT body, or especially the Cobra's body trim, but this is just my opinion. --When it gets down to it, get what appeals to you and not someone else.

My '90 GT was my daily driver from 1998-2003, when I bought the next Mustang that has been my daily driver since bought new in '03 --my Azure Blue '03 Mach 1. As fun as the Fox GT is, the Mach 1 will out run, out stop and out handle circles around my '90 GT.

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