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Old 11-14-2012, 06:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Toyota
Toyota to recall 2.8 million vehicles worldwide for steering glitch - Business - Autos | NBC News

Their quality is NOT what it once was. Folks need to not rely on the past but consider other brands.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I guess that's one way to get a Prius off the road. I cannot even put into words how much I hate that stupid car. Too bad it's not going to remove them from the road permanently!
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Any word on whether Ford is going to recall the early Mustangs for cowl issues
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:21 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You can look at it 2 ways

Good: The factory is acknowledging these issues and taking care of it.

Bad: The cars are poorly made, quality sucks and they are avoiding claims.
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GM is still the recall king. All brands have recalls; even Mercedes and BMW.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I hate Priuses !!

i commute 100+ miles a day and they are always doing 55mph in the fast lane for no reason !!

ok maybe i hate their owners..
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You can look at it 2 ways

Good: The factory is acknowledging these issues and taking care of it.

Bad: The cars are poorly made, quality sucks and they are avoiding claims.
You are dead on. Fewer recalls does not necessarily mean fewer defects. Case in point, my 2003 Ford Windstar. These were legendary for their catastrophic transmission failures every 70,000 miles along with a $3,000 transmission replacement. Mine was no exception. The ABS computer has cold solder joints and routinely fails with replacement costing around $1,000. The master cylinder brake switch has a bad seal causing brake fluid to short it out and trigger the brake light. The master cylinder leaks fluid down the harness to the ABS computer causing shorts and rarely, a fire. The list goes on and on for this vehicle, but Ford has determined that none of these issues are safety-related and therefore they are not recalled.

Don't take my word for it, google is littered with examples. Just because this van has very few recalls does not indicate high quality.
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I hate Priuses !!

i commute 100+ miles a day and they are always doing 55mph in the fast lane for no reason !!

ok maybe i hate their owners..
That's because they're listening to NPR while sipping a large, free-trade, organic, carbon-neutral, lactose-free, soy latte' with Madagascar cinnamon.
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That's because they're listening to NPR while sipping a large, free-trade, organic, carbon-neutral, lactose-free, soy latte' with Madagascar cinnamon.
And the afternoon commute drinking an extra large wheat grass shake.
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Here's what has happened. Up untill 2007 the yen was worth less than the dollar. So anything built overseas had a considerable advantage in price. It's like going to Mexico, the dollar buys a lot more there than it does here. What this ment for companies like toyota is they could build a cadilac and sell it for what an escort cost. U.S. companies couldn't compete and make a profit. In 2007 the yen became more valuable than the weak dollar. And thus the quality of material and workmanship had to decrease in there cars to still hit the same price point. This is good for U.S. car makers. However the number and power of U.S. car makers is long gone. Chyrsler is now an off brand fiat. And I've already owned one "le car" I'm not going back. GM while still U.S. owned has sold off most of it's overseas brands and the chance of recovery as a major player is about as good as my casterated hound dog having pups. Ford, I think is doing good and is in a good position to take a lions share of car sales. I really hope we return to more of a 1950's model of the car industry, lot's of small brands filling in nitch markets. If crosley makes a come back I may find myself buying a mini.
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Case in point, my 2003 Ford Windstar. The master cylinder brake switch has a bad seal causing brake fluid to short it out and trigger the brake light. The master cylinder leaks fluid down the harness to the ABS computer causing shorts and rarely, a fire. Ford has determined that none of these issues are safety-related and therefore they are not recalled.

Don't take my word for it, google is littered with examples.

I guess you didn't Google the brake switch concern you mentioned yourself because Ford issued recall #: 09S09 on October 13, 2009 which specifically addresses and repairs this concern.

Call a dealership and have it performed if you haven't already.


The problem with the internet is people who are not having problems don't get online and talk about it. These people FAR out number the ones who complain about problems they have on forums such as this.
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I guess you didn't Google the brake switch concern you mentioned yourself because Ford issued recall #: 09S09 on October 13, 2009 which specifically addresses and repairs this concern.

Call a dealership and have it performed if you haven't already.
Good point. I did not follow up on that recall because it is for speed control and my vehicle has aftermarket cruise control. Nonetheless, you are correct. I have scheduled time for the recall to be performed.

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The problem with the internet is people who are not having problems don't get online and talk about it. These people FAR out number the ones who complain about problems they have on forums such as this.
You are correct. No one ever logs on to a forum and proclaims how thrilled they are that something did not go wrong with their car today.

Now that I've written that, I cannot stop myself...

After 28 years of ownership and untold miles, the hood latch on my 1966 coupe is still working like a champ!

Sorry, couldn't resist. Thanks for the nudge on the switch (but I still do not believe I have that switch).
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The brake switch in question here is actually what is known as the speed control deactivator switch, and it threads into the brake master cylinder. All Windstars have them. I work on them (and all Fords) for a living and have never seen or heard of one that did not.
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and lat's not forget........make sure you follow a prius because when the system is changing form gas/electric or back, they have no brake system for between 5-15 seconds....states right in the owners manual.
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The brake switch in question here is actually what is known as the speed control deactivator switch, and it threads into the brake master cylinder. All Windstars have them. I work on them (and all Fords) for a living and have never seen or heard of one that did not.
I stand corrected, and I thank you for the explanation.
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