Hey everyone, so my dad wants to get the new 2013 GT 500 and I know that this forum is about the classic stangs but I was wondering if any of you out there know of any good Ford dealerships in California or Arizona, Nevada, or Oregon that are good to go through when buying this kind of car. We are in the Bay Area and haven't found really any good places to deal with. I've found only one that has more than one GT 500 on the lot, which is in Orange County. If anyone has any knowledge about this please let me know!! Thank you!!
They are getting hard to find. The best thing to do is search autotrader. Oh yeah they are going to ask for 5-12,500 additional markup, don't ever pay it! You can find one without. Also keep in mind that you can now order a 2014!
There is also a forum for SVT cars you should probably look around!
With supply and demand as a backdrop, I suspect that the urban dealerships around here are probably holding out for top dollar. I suggest that you consider two additional strategies:
1. Shop dealers in the outlying areas in the valley and up the coast (how many people in Kings or Del Norte Counties drive GT 500s?);
2. Time your shopping when the end of the quarter quotas are a few cars short and sales managers have more wiggle room to get their numbers. It's a crap shoot finding a hungry dealer but I have had success in the past during the week between Christmas and New Years with $7500 and $5000 below MSRP on high demand cars during a seasonal sales lull.
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I dont think youll be finding one under MSRP unless you know someone that is pretty high up at a dealership.
When I bought mine the ONE dealer I found that didn't want at least 5k over MSRP was the car I bought... it had more options then I wanted but I didn't throw money down the drain... and I drove about 200miles to get it.
These cars are tough to get... like i said jump on the SVT forums since they are specialized they will be more knowledge then the VMF. Just sayin!
I flew from Boston to a Chicago area dealer with a friend last July to pick his up. He paid MSRP... 69K for a well optioned vert, we drove all the way home with the top down. We had multiple people taking pictures and video of us on then highway, felt like rockstars.
Two are already for sale here in the UK with minimal mileage. One is reportedly for sale as he thought the traction was horrible. What did the buyer expect?
Remember there is approx a 30 percent tax on a new car import here. $$$
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yeah I will probably get on one of those SVT forums soon and ask around. I have talked to Galpin Ford which is just north of LA cause i was told that they were the best on the west coast for this type of car and im hoping that holds true. they said that they put a $5,000 mark up on an ordered car which is much better than Future Ford in Concord being that they asked for a $10,000 mark up which is insane, but $5,000 is a bit much especially for a special order in which the dealership has to do hardly anything
shop around, it may take some time... since you can order a 14 the ADM might disappear soon on the 13's...
and for the record the traction is the one negative that i have seen with the car... the most powerful mass production car in US history and they put 285 tires on the back... from what i have read/heard they couldn't go any wider because of restrictions (so you are stuck going wider aftermarket)...
Check out svtperformance.com, many knowledgable people and threads on dealers/individuals where you can avoid ADM. They didn't go wider than 285 on the rears because of handling (again, svtperformance has embedded videos of interviews with Jamaal, the lead engineer for the GT500, explaining various aspects of the car and how/why it was engineered the way it was) and a balance vs traction. Also the reason they incorporated the launch control. Hard to argue with mid 11's at 125+ mph with stock tires, though? Lots of people are substituting Michelin Pilot Super Sports (Jamaal wanted them but they were $34 ea. higher in price than the stock Good Years that come on the car and the bean counters nixed that idea) and/or widening their wheels. Let's just be thankful Ford gave us 662 HP stock!
CThey didn't go wider than 285 on the rears because of handling (again, svtperformance has embedded videos of interviews with Jamaal, the lead engineer for the GT500, explaining various aspects of the car and how/why it was engineered the way it was) and a balance vs traction.
that's what he said but it has also been mentioned that is complete BS that the fenders cannot hold more and IIRC it was also said somewhere that the next body style will not have that same problem.
In my honest opinion I think he just said that to save face "oh we don't NEED wider tires"... well there as been some 11.XX in the quarter but I broke loose in 3 gears at my local track and couldn't get a 60 less then 2.2 (could be driver, could be track conditions, could be tires... my guess it was a little of all 3)... if you watch the videos of launching W/ launch control it still spins a lot.
Keep in mind there are regulations (for example crash testing) that can regulate the size of the tire. In that interview he was talking about keeping the tires within so many sizes of each other because of handling but most performance cars (look at the new viper) have way more size difference then the GT500 does another one to mention would be the ZL1 that also has 100 less rwhp.
To even make it worse ford puts bigger rims in the back... 20 vs 19's but they don't go any wider... explain that one to me!
the tire size is a joke and every owner knows it and I would say once the first set wears out you will hardly see any of them with the GY's back on them.
I randomly search for these on Autotrader and it is not uncommon for a new one to show up with no markup at all. They of course can go fast though. To have one shipped across the country will be less than what a lot of dealers are marking them up. My gut feeling on these though is a lot of people are buying them at large markups and can't truly afford the cars. So I think waiting for someone to be selling a low mile'd one might not be all that long of a wait. I actually recall seeing one with less than 1k miles on it for a fair amount less than MSRP but can't remember where I saw that ad.
yeah, however I found the dealers trying to slide that in at the end of the deal... I actually had a dealer in FL call me back when I was driving mine home as I was driving he was still trying to tell me I wouldn't find one without a markup...
Very true but if you take your time you can find a dealer that actually is not going to do that. I know a couple people who got these without markups, one discounted and not sure how that happened since not like he was friends with the dealer. Then I know some people who paid the ridiculous markups. One of the people I know who paid the markup also traded in two cars he had and is paying an insane(for his income) car note every month. I fully expect him to not even last a year with his GT500 before he sells it, actually I expect come tax time he will get his rude awakening.
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