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Old 02-14-2013, 05:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How come my thread got closed?

Independent car possible? (you should look at my idea)

did I do something wrong?
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It took a bad hop. Have you driven a Tesla Model S?
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nope. But the thread went political and politics and discussion around them are one of the few things not allowed around here.

Funny enough, I locked it, rather than delete it, and made that clear with the last post to avoid the always almost immediately following "hey where did my thread go" post and everything....

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Old 02-14-2013, 05:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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so it got closed because other people went political when I tried to deter them from it... cool. i'm not mad or anything I was just curious why.

And no I've not driven the Tesla Model S but I want too! I've seen a few test drive videos and it looks interesting!
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And no I've not driven the Tesla Model S but I want too! I've seen a few test drive videos and it looks interesting!
One of my neighbors got one about a month ago. I've owned A/C Cobra replicas and the Tesla would make one look like a Vespa dragging a cinder block.
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One of my neighbors got one about a month ago. I've owned A/C Cobra replicas and the Tesla would make one look like a Vespa dragging a cinder block.
Prone to hyperbole much? Unless your A/C replica was running an iron duke, it should easily take the Teslas lunch money.

Model S perfoemance stats from Car and Driver

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 12.1 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 21.4 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 4.5 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 1.8 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 2.3 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 104 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 134 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.91 g

Car and Driver tested a FFR MarkIII and ran 0-60 in 3.6, 0-100 at 9.0, and 12.3 in the quarter. That was with a 347. They also pulled 1.0g on the skidpad.
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Your last question was about a generator applied over 55 I beleive. I know its hard to wrap your head around thermodynamics- but it will not do what you want to do. Remember the slogan: there is no such thing as a free lunch- If you did apply a generator- the drag would require more power, and more gas and would consume more power than is produced. It sucks, I know- you can recover some energy- but it will always cost you. No matter what, no exceptions. IIRC there is a prize/money out there for anyone who can come up with a perpetual motion machine (of course you don't need an official prize- as you would be soooo rich- Bill Gates would look poor by comparison, and they would name a holiday in your honor)
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What about tires made out of Flubber?
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Your last question was about a generator applied over 55 I beleive. I know its hard to wrap your head around thermodynamics- but it will not do what you want to do. Remember the slogan: there is no such thing as a free lunch- If you did apply a generator- the drag would require more power, and more gas and would consume more power than is produced. It sucks, I know- you can recover some energy- but it will always cost you. No matter what, no exceptions. IIRC there is a prize/money out there for anyone who can come up with a perpetual motion machine (of course you don't need an official prize- as you would be soooo rich- Bill Gates would look poor by comparison, and they would name a holiday in your honor)
Bingo.

Because none of our technology is 100% effective, every time we change the form of energy, we lose some. Even over 55mph or whatever, there is no magic speed where it becomes possible to "gain more than we lose" - That is simply impossible to do by the conservation of energy.
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i like Tesla , they write some cool songs. rock me to the top !
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i like Tesla , they write some cool songs. rock me to the top !
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A lot of energy is lost in the differential. I don't have a suggestion how to avoid or decrease the loss, but whenever you make a 90 degree turn with torque, you lose a big percentage. This is one of the reasons the major car companies went with FWD and transversally mounted engines.
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A lot of energy is lost in the differential. I don't have a suggestion how to avoid or decrease the loss, but whenever you make a 90 degree turn with torque, you lose a big percentage. This is one of the reasons the major car companies went with FWD and transversally mounted engines.
I think ease of manufacturing and space savings were the primary motivators there.
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