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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 12-01-2016, 11:32 AM Thread Starter
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Widebody Quarter Panels for Pro Touring

Ok ok, before y'all freak out I'm not talking about some tuner fast and furious widebody kit for an early Mustang. What I AM talking about is creating body panels to widen the stance by 2-3" on either side of the car. I was skimming the inter-webs recently and came across a company that manufactures 'widebody' kits for the new challengers (I've given the link below). They use all composite materials and give you outter wheel well extensions with the kit. Now anybody that has modified an early Mustang (especially a 65/66) knows that there is VERY limited space under the rear of the car without doing a mini tub. My idea is make composite body panels that widen the car by 2-3" on either side, allowing the use of wider wheels, tires and rear end and giving us a wider wheelbase to work with.

My plan is to create a drawing of the panels using 3D modeling software that can then be sent to a composites company for a quote on manufacturing. These panels will not be replacements for the quarter panel but will instead lay over the top of them. Some trimming of the wheel well would be required to accommodate the larger wheels but the quarter panel would not need to be removed.

If there's enough interest I'll start mocking up a sketch that I can share. Below is the link to the company who does the panels on the Challenger. The second link is to Ron Schwartz' car that many of you have probably seen before. He did all of the work by hand (and did a hell of a job at that!) and I'm just trying to come up with a 'bolt on' solution to achieve a similar look. The pictures there are for reference to the dimensions of the car with the panels installed.

Challenger link: 2008-2016 Dodge Challenger Widebody Package ChallengerWideBody

Ron Schwartz Mustang link: 5 Tips for Building a $5000 Pro-Touring Mustang | MyRideisMe.com

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I believe that Ring Brothers is already making a widebody for the 65-66 in the manner you describe. Might be worth a look.


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I know they've widened the body on a few of the Mustangs they've done but are they actually going to produce and sell something like that? I've haven't heard that before.

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Yup- they do- $27,500
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There was another guy that did a similar build on another forum- it had a lot of reviews and opinions on the finished car and most weren't very good. It seemed the overwhelming majority thought it was in poor taste or wrong proportions, etc, but to each his own, right? I remember an article where a guy had essentially cut the car straight down the center nose to tail, then added material in to widen it that way. He wasn't flaring the wells, just stretching the whole car. There were a few pics of the car split, and I think a few with panels added in, but I don't remember seeing a finished car...

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Wow yeah. Just went back and looked again and found that kit. $27,500!! Thats insane! I'm talking about something A LOT more subtle than that. If you could get panels similar to the Challenger link I posted that would give you the approximate dimensions of the the car Ron Schwartz built I think it would be pretty well liked by the pro touring/modding community. I could be wrong though. That's why I posted it up here. Just trying to gauge interest.

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$27,500?! I guess they'll make it up in volume.



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Plus honestly after seeing it in person I wasn't a fan at all. Looks better on the fastbacks but also saw a vert this year at SEMA and it looked ridiculous, completely ruined the proportions and made it look fat and bloated.


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That's what the majority of the reviews said too...

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I think I may have taken some pictures, will see if I can find em'


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If your looking for subtle flare and more room you could do like Cobraautomotive does on the 65/66 GT350's they race in the vintage and use the lower portion of a 67/68 quarter panel.Hard to see I guess in this picture ,But I've seen these cars up close at Watkins Glen


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There's a guy over at cornercarvers.com that put together a JY wide body Mustang, equipped with a C5 front suspension and a NASCAR style truck arm rear suspension. Just about everything was hand formed. Here's a couple of photos. If you are a member of the CC site you can probably do a search for muttstang to see the whole build thread.
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If your looking for subtle flare and more room you could do like Cobraautomotive does on the 65/66 GT350's they race in the vintage and use the lower portion of a 67/68 quarter panel.Hard to see I guess in this picture ,But I've seen these cars up close at Watkins Glen


Then there is always this option
I've actually though about using part of the 67/68 panel before. Good thinkin!

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There's a guy over at cornercarvers.com that put together a JY wide body Mustang, equipped with a C5 front suspension and a NASCAR style truck arm rear suspension. Just about everything was hand formed. Here's a couple of photos. If you are a member of the CC site you can probably do a search for muttstang to see the whole build thread.
front flares under construction:


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Yeah this is the car from the Mustang link I had in the original post. That thing is amazing! He did really good work on it. Can't say I'm a fan of the LS1 but it made sense for his build. He only has about $5k in the entire car.

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Mini-tubs wont make the car wider, but now that there are preformed kits out there, its easier and you can 295's sunk in real nice on the '65-66.



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Yeah that's my point. By extending the body panels outward you allow yourself the ability to give the car a wider wheelbase while also putting more rubber on the road versus the minitubs just putting more rubber down. But you're right, the mini tub kits they have now make for easy installation.

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We built such a beast down here in Mexico, inspired a little bit by the Ring brothers and the old TCP race car... custom built chassis, 2" wider in the middle of the quarter panel, 1 1/4-1 1/2" on the front fenders, custom everything LOL






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