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post #16 of 58 (permalink) Old 01-20-2017, 05:44 PM
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I used the American Autowire kit. I was very happy with it. To me, it was more suited to the modifications that I wanted. Its set up for a one wire alternator, AC, electric fans ect. It made more sense to use this than to butcher a factory style harness.
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I went AAW from research, as well as from the excellent installation right up available on CJ's and here on this site. Great details there plus the basic instructions will get most everything handled with an AAW kit. Almost everyone I spoke with who had done Painless kits called them "Painfull" kits.

I went custom routing (very little in the engine bay) and location for the fuse panel (top left corner of the firewall) which led to some complications and a few "wow that barely reached" type things, as well as some extra cable on the left kickpanel area, but all in all I could not see going another way for anything but a bone "stock" car. Also 3G alternator instead of the 1 wire, custom fan setup etc. Still have a nice harness that came with it to pull key on power from for power windows or locks or other accessories.

I would do another AAW kit, but plan on taking your time. I re-pulled my main wire feeds 3 different times and manipulated the bundles as I just didn't think everything out in advance the first 2 times heh.

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The AAW kit has no provisions for a stock alternator set up.
I used AAW for a couple of reasons: I have a 3-g conversion and the kit includes new ignition and all other switches.
I researched extensivly before the purchase and learned that Painless wasn't!
I did not need to buy anything else other than the 2/0 and 4/0 welding cable for the trunk mounted battery.

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I went AAW from research, as well as from the excellent installation right up available on CJ's and here on this site. Great details there plus the basic instructions will get most everything handled with an AAW kit.
That's fantastic. Can you link me?

Thank you everyone! I know the subject's been covered but due to the excellent people on this site i gained enough info for my specific needs - Purchased the AAW kit!

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That's fantastic. Can you link me?

Thank you everyone! I know the subject's been covered but due to the excellent people on this site i gained enough info for my specific needs - Purchased the AAW kit!
http://www.cjponyparts.com/mustang-a...uctions/a/324/
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I've used the AAW harness a couple of times and prefer it over the Painless, The instructions are clear and the wire in the AAW kit appears to be a little thicker.
Here's a tip: After completing your circuits, use a lantern battery to check your work. It has enough power to light the lamps but not enough power to burn it down if you should make a mistake.

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I also did the AAW myself, along with an efi conversion, power windows etc etc. It was so easy to work with. Get the proper crimpers and you are laughing.
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I also did the AAW myself, along with an efi conversion, power windows etc etc. It was so easy to work with. Get the proper crimpers and you are laughing.
These are the proper crimpers, right?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aww-510587

Brand: American Autowire
Manufacturer's Part Number: 510587

What makes these so invaluable? Jeez, for $180 I'd hope they'd wire the car for me

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The crimpers can be found elsewhere with some research under different names, I paid the high price for them as well.

Spend some time with the harness before you start trying to mount the fuse box, decide how YOU want to route things outside of typical factory stuff (like the rear harness). I have most of my front end wiring routed in the driver fender well, and I cut a few things out that I did not need, but left enough to solder or butt connect if I had to or something changed.

I did a fair amount of split F6 sleeve akin to the write up here, but I didn't get crazy with it behind the dash, mostly just in areas visible or that may need some additional protection.

Great thing about the AAW, you can kind of install it how you want it.

Good luck, however long you think it will take, I would double it so you will feel more accomplished when you get finished

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AAW and Vintage Air???

So, there seems to be a ton of support for the AAW harness, which is good, because it's a bit cheaper (before the crimping tools)... that said, I need to know if the fuse block can be mounted in various locations, so that it will work with whichever of the 3 major aftermarket A/C systems I go with Also, do you need to use an aftermarket Tachometer, or will the OEM in dash tach work with this harness?

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I mounted mine pretty much dead center of the dashboard and turned it 90* towards the pass side. So I access my fuses through the glove box. I haven't done HVAC yet, but can't imagine it getting in the way really.


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The crimpers can be found elsewhere with some research under different names, I paid the high price for them as well.

Spend some time with the harness before you start trying to mount the fuse box, decide how YOU want to route things outside of typical factory stuff (like the rear harness). I have most of my front end wiring routed in the driver fender well, and I cut a few things out that I did not need, but left enough to solder or butt connect if I had to or something changed.
Is there a part number on the crimpers I could look up? Or are they a certain type I can research. (or do you want to sell your used ones? )

If anyone has install pics I'd love to peruse them. Great resource.

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A quick google turned up a tool aid 18960, looks like a crimp kit type of tool that should do what you are attempting based on the PT forums. I make no endorsement for that tool, do a little more research before you pull the trigger. A few other people mentioned the tool trucks and Lisle as possible options, again your call. I do feel AAW is a little proud of their crimpers, and post google Summit immediately popped up with an offer for two crimpers at $170.

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You can get the S&G Tool aid 18960 at Amazon for $70 or one with 9 dies for $107.
http://https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=...l_42g1mhth1o_e

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You can get the S&G Tool aid 18960 at Amazon for $70 or one with 9 dies for $107.
http://https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=...l_42g1mhth1o_e
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