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Old 02-06-2010, 12:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Mustang II conversion kit

Found this on E-Bay:

MUSTANG II 1964 65 66 67 68 69 mustang IFS kit SHELBY : eBay Motors (item 390149557970 end time Feb-07-10 20:09:36 PST)

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Old 02-06-2010, 01:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yuk! (IMHO)

Mustang II - a just-as-bad suspension geometry as 65-73 factory suspension with small rotors as well......

Not a big fan, as you can probably tell.
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Old 02-06-2010, 01:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Never heard of this brand.
Personally I would step up and use the Heidt's or TCI coil over design.
I have install several Heidts Superride IIs and the crossmember is super easy to install.
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PS I think Rod and Custom Motorsports also make a coil over style now.
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I used a kit from Rod and Custom Motorsports. Everything installed easy and it is complete with everything you need.
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:25 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I used Heidt's and like it so far. It really opened up under the hood when the shock towers were cut out. I went with coilovers too.

I also did the four link in the rear with coilovers. I do not have it on the road yet.
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I also went with the Rod an Custom system. They have coilovers for their setups as well. That's what I went with. The instructions are very clear and they are helpful over the phone.
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Hiedt's for me on 66. No regrets.
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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What is your goal for the car?

1. More engine room - Mustang II types and SLA conversions will give you more room. They usually require some level of surgery and may not be easily reversed.

2. Improved Handling - Mustang II geometry? Some are happy with it. Heidt's, R&C and others are reputable. CPP is a newer Mustang offering (see Coleman's incredible build). Personally, I'd never use a MII suspension...but my goals may be very different than yours...I'm building one highly modified, track car and one minimally modified street/vintage racer. The first will use that absolute best (and expensive)...Griggs Racing (Griggs Racing Products). The second will use some components from Open Tracker, Street or Track, Global West to adhere to Vintage racing requirements.

I would hesitate on this product, just because it appears new. Hopefully, you can find someone who has implemented it and can advise you.

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From what I recall Heidts has issues with their kit and 351 engines. Rod and Customs kits seems to be the benchmark for the MII styled suspensions. If you go with and MII setup, get one that uses true coilovers since you'll have an easier time tuning and setting ride height. Also notice that in linked kit that you need to use drop spindles just to maintain stock ride hieght. If this kit was specifically designed for a Mustang, then they would have dropped the spring bucket deeper into the lower control arm so that drop spindles wouldn't be required.
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Yuk! (IMHO)

Mustang II - a just-as-bad suspension geometry as 65-73 factory suspension with small rotors as well......

Not a big fan, as you can probably tell.
i disagree, I am a huge fan as you can tell. Maybe the M2 is not the best on a road track or maybe it is (i dont know). but it is on the street for regular driving. But you should draw your own conclusion, this debate is an old one and it will be around a long time. anyway i would stick with Heidts or Rod and Custom if you choose that route.
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Your goals should give you your answer. I have installed R&C Mustang 2's and love them. If you are planning on a Modular, or biggie engine and need the room, then its the way to go. If you give R&C a call and tell them what engine/tranny you are planning on using, they can adjust the cross menber and offer helpful advice (and I would plan the complete build first). On the flip if I was planning on a small block, "to me" I am just as happy using the original type suspension some cheap modifications like the "Shelby drop" with a set of roller perches and a good alignment. This in itself will make a world of differ in how the car drives and handles and save you about 1500 bux. As far as the kit you mentioned, why not spend your money with someone that has been around and that will be there to answer your questions, should you have an problem.
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you will notice the only ones bad mouthing a mustang II suspension are those who dont have one...all of us who have one love it...makes you think doesnt it?
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Actually there was a guy or two in a previous thread that had performed the MII conversions and said they wouldn't recommend it unless you need the room for something like a Mod motor. I think it was due to the work involved.
Maybe one of these guys will chime in.....
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oh, i agree, if you are happy with a small block...there is absolutley no reason to go with a MII front end...I wouldnt say the amount of work was all that bad myself, but then I have a ton more work than that going into my car, if you have a wide engine though...like you said, there really is no other effective choice, I will admit that the disk brakes and rack and pinion alone is worth the price...I paid something like 1600 for my heidts kit from an ebay distributor
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Your goals should give you your answer. I have installed R&C Mustang 2's and love them. If you are planning on a Modular, or biggie engine and need the room, then its the way to go. If you give R&C a call and tell them what engine/tranny you are planning on using, they can adjust the cross menber and offer helpful advice (and I would plan the complete build first). On the flip if I was planning on a small block, "to me" I am just as happy using the original type suspension some cheap modifications like the "Shelby drop" with a set of roller perches and a good alignment. This in itself will make a world of differ in how the car drives and handles and save you about 1500 bux. As far as the kit you mentioned, why not spend your money with someone that has been around and that will be there to answer your questions, should you have an problem.
+1 I went with basic mods above and got good results.
As far as the MII setups, I'd do one if I needed the room for a street driven car. I think they get a bad rap because MII & Pinto's are unpopular.
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