ok so i have a stock i6, 3speed manual in my 1965 mustang coupe. i thought it would be pretty cool to stick a turbo on it to just see what i can get out of it. i will do all the upgrade before hand( 5 lug, diskbrake, ect.). i just need to know if i can use the same t5 transmission from the 1982 datsun 280zx and stick it in the mustang. what all would i have to change to do the turbo upgrade as far as clutch, flywheel, driveshaft, iternal stuff that i dont want to ruin cause of the increase in horse power?
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ok so i have a stock i6, 3speed manual in my 1965 mustang coupe. i thought it would be pretty cool to stick a turbo on it to just see what i can get out of it. i will do all the upgrade before hand( 5 lug, diskbrake, ect.). i just need to know if i can use the same t5 transmission from the 1982 datsun 280zx and stick it in the mustang. what all would i have to change to do the turbo upgrade as far as clutch, flywheel, driveshaft, iternal stuff that i dont want to ruin cause of the increase in horse power?
thanks.
I would not consider this - not even for 3 seconds. All the peripheral costs to retrofit this puppy will kill any savings you thought might have. Just because you have this trans lying around or have access to it - DONT DO IT. As far as the turbo set up? Tell us about the condition of the 6. Does it have high mileage stock internals? If it has been rebuilt and you really are bent on it, you will need at the very least - beyond the obvious - a blow thru carb (one approach) or EFI. Dont exceed 5 psi. If you want to play with it - pull the stock driveline and transplant a 5.0 - 5spd from an 87-93 fox. Lots of folks here have done this one.
I've considered doing a big turbo 4 cyl from a late 80's/early 90's Ford turbo four like what the Thunderbird had. I've read up a bit and apprently with a few right parts and a well planned build, those little engines will make big power and are dang near bulletproof. Would definitely up the "not like every other Mustang at the cruise in" factor!
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If you want Nissan try an entire swap from a 90-96 300zx. Twin turbo engine, tranny, and the IRS-4.08 posi rear w/ disc brakes, same bolt pattern and everything. That would be pretty sweet.
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I've considered doing a big turbo 4 cyl from a late 80's/early 90's Ford turbo four like what the Thunderbird had. I've read up a bit and apprently with a few right parts and a well planned build, those little engines will make big power and are dang near bulletproof. Would definitely up the "not like every other Mustang at the cruise in" factor!
I have one here that I built for my son. Anytime you want to drive over you can see it.
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I've considered doing a big turbo 4 cyl from a late 80's/early 90's Ford turbo four like what the Thunderbird had. I've read up a bit and apprently with a few right parts and a well planned build, those little engines will make big power and are dang near bulletproof. Would definitely up the "not like every other Mustang at the cruise in" factor!
I do not understand the question. Are you talking about swapping in a 1982 Datsun engine or just the turbocharger off of it? Either way, monumental waste of time and money if you ask me. There's about ten different swaps that would be better and worth the time, money and effort. If you're talking about just bolting on a turbo to see what happens, I'm sure you can find an inexpensive turbocharger that is not some 1982 piece of crap. No offense.
Given this is the "Mod & Custom" side of VMF, I don't understand the negativity expressed by some. A factory engineered turbo off a similar displacement engine out of a similar sized car with similar sporting intentions seems like a reasonable idea to me. I have bench raced a turbo Mustang six myself. I only wish I had more knowledge to share. I definitely second the Fordsix/ClassicInlines recommendation. Cool sites.
Even if the op is considering an entire engine/tranny swap (and more power to you if you are!), then I say Go for it! Realize that return on investment (dollar-wise) won't be there, and it's sure to be a PITA to work out the bugs, but I for one could not see leaving a Mustang six stock if I had one. Do what makes you happy. Neil
It's just that turbo technology has changed A LOT since 1982. You could probably get a turbo better suited to the application. It would spool faster while retaining the same airflow. A turbo from 1982 is basically best used as a boat anchor if you ask me.
I definitely think 65-73 6cyl cars are candidates for engine swaps or turbos. Just not using parts from a 1982 Datsun. That's all.
I think it was in Car Craft a couple of years back. They had a 63 Falcon I6 and a hair drier. It was running fairly quick. The biggest problem is the crappy log intake and sharp bends. Flow is not going to be even to all the cylinders. Pressure is a function of resistance so you're going to see high boost levels for low gains. The Falcon had a 2bbl 500 CFM Holley.
I Stick with a newer T5 or better yet, go with a C4 with the turbo, it'll keep the boost up on shifts.
Maybe not the best idea but could be done.
I don't like those early ZX turbos much. Mainly because they are a bit expensive to get rebuilt. After so many years no doubt it could use some freshening up. On the plus side it would be about the right size for what you want to do.
The ZX's got the very earliest of T5's. Not "world class" but usable. The Nissan output shaft is like 1.3" compared to a Ford's 1.5" so you'd either need to mate the Nissan drivshaft yoke to the Mustang's driveshaft or swap the output shaft (and I think the extension housing too) in favor of a Mustang version. It's very possible you could turn up a cheap core NWC T5 to donate what you need there.
The Nissan input shaft is different too. They tend to be bad on core T5's so you'd best buy a new one. Also the input bearing housing to match. Going to a "steel" one is a common upgrade. Both parts are widely available and not too expensive.
The Nissan bellhousing isn't usuable at all, neither is the clutch. You'll need to look into the T5/200 six conversion kit. A few folks here have them.
If you do decide to go ahead and use the T5, freshen it up. If nothing else, replace the secondary shaft bushing. On NWC T5 that bushing is the only "preload" the secondary shaft has and they do get well worn. Putting a new one in could mean the difference in wheter your T5 lives or dies. While you're at it, a minor rebuild kit. New blocker rings, shift fork pads, and such. Very doable by the backyard mechanic with a clean workbench to use.
I think you can do what you have in mind. Up to you to decide if it's worth doing with the parts you have.
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putting 1982 datsun turbo on'65 mustang i6
That would be pretty sweet.
