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1965 Fastback Roll Bar Q

I'd like to install a roll bar in the fastback while the interior is out. However, I'd like the bar to be fully immersed into the interior panels like this photo:



From what I've seen form the various catalogs, it looks like the support braces sink into the rear seat area (the rear flat panel -I could be wrong). This photo has the support braces behind the panel (I assume he has support braces)

Also how is the roll bar installed through the panel? Or, how is the panel installed with the roll bar affixed?

Does anyone know of a roll bar that fits this description and what does the support brace tie into behind the panel? - wheel house?

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My own personal feeling is that I would not install any sort of roll bar in a street car. Just the thought of my head hitting that hard steel tubing in an accident sends shivers down my spine.

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The shelby bar mounts like that and came in the shelby cars.

The main bar welds to the floors in the t-box area and the rear bars weld into the top of the wheel wells.

The bar is installed and the panel has 'c' shaped holes cut into them

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My own personal feeling is that I would not install any sort of roll bar in a street car. Just the thought of my head hitting that hard steel tubing in an accident sends shivers down my spine.
Point well taken, however my seat back covers up to the back of my head.



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The shelby bar mounts like that and came in the shelby cars.

The main bar welds to the floors in the t-box area and the rear bars weld into the top of the wheel wells.

The bar is installed and the panel has 'c' shaped holes cut into them
Well that makes sense! LOL

So the bar in question is the one offered by Mustang parts houses that states "retains rear seat" ?

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And maybe these so you don't cut up your originals
http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/ite...?T1=655418A+01

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Thanks Nick. My originals have had some mods to them anyway, clearance for the minitubs etc...

Do the roll bars come with those grommets (seated into the panels)? If not, source?

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Thanks Nick. My originals have had some mods to them anyway, clearance for the minitubs etc...

Do the roll bars come with those grommets (seated into the panels)? If not, source?

Thx.
No, the roll bar is just the roll bar. I don't know who would sell the rubber grommets...but since they were on all the shelby cars...I'm sure someone does.

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If you end up using the ABS side panels instead of cutting up your original, a section of windlace works well to trim the opening around the rollbar if you can't find the grommets.

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If you end up using the ABS side panels instead of cutting up your original, a section of windlace works well to trim the opening around the rollbar if you can't find the grommets.
Great idea, thx!



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Kinda hard to tell, but I used windlace as well. I think it turned out pretty good considering what a PITA it was to get the panel to fit.



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Kinda hard to tell, but I used windlace as well. I think it turned out pretty good considering what a PITA it was to get the panel to fit.



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Nice work, never saw a true braced roll bar in a vert before.



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Nice work, never saw a true braced roll bar in a vert before.

Thanks. It's a true 8pt... getting the back seat to fit was... interesting. But in the end it all fit.

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The 65/66 bar that TommyZ provides, has tabs that bolt into the A-pillar structure up top, can be seen best in 3rd picture.

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/at...1&d=1354702479

Picture of typical hidden back brace

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/at...1&d=1354702585

Re hitting head, I don't have a back seat.

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/at...1&d=1354702710
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Thanks for the links



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Maier Racing installs their rollbars like that. Very clean. IIRC, Mike installs the plates for the 4 points at the four attachment spots of the leaf springs.

That is how mine is done.

It does not pass NHRA cert even with door bars.
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