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Old 09-17-2009, 10:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Stock chassis with slicks

Been a while since i've posted or been on the VMF but back daily reading all your posts I've been doing some track time with my 69 Fastback but have never attempted running a slick on the back mainly due to the car being stock underneath... I've got a fairly healthy 428 wiht 4spd toploader and a 3:91rear going to Estimate about 400-450HP at the rear wheels. I'd love to put a good sticky tire on the back and have a true launch but I'm afraid the car will twist with no frame connecters or added support. Everything is in sound condition expect for the back frame rails which are a little scary at the ends only. Anyone have experience on this? Should I add some support to the car before attempting slicks.
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would strongly recommend putting frame connectors in. I used to race the brown car in my signature on wrinkle wall slicks. I had a mild 351c with a C6, 4000 stall converter, and 4:56 gears. I didn't have frame connectors or a rollbar in the car. I ended up getting wrinkles in the roof right behind the doors. My current car is running a stroker windsor that should make at least 550hp with a 5 speed and 4:11 gears. I'm running frame connectors and a 8 point rollbar. Hopefully this will keep the car from flexing when I run it at the track on slicks.


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I would strongly recommend putting frame connectors in. I used to race the brown car in my signature on wrinkle wall slicks. I had a mild 351c with a C6, 4000 stall converter, and 4:56 gears. I didn't have frame connectors or a rollbar in the car. I ended up getting wrinkles in the roof right behind the doors. My current car is running a stroker windsor that should make at least 550hp with a 5 speed and 4:11 gears. I'm running frame connectors and a 8 point rollbar. Hopefully this will keep the car from flexing when I run it at the track on slicks.


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A big +1.

It doesn't take long to twist these cars up without subframe connectors. Mine still twists (no cage yet) at the track with a 2500rpm, drag radial spinning 1.80 60' launch. Not badly, but it definitely twists. The 10pt cage should be going in shortly.

I know guys who run for years launching hard on slicks with no subframes...but the cars are permanently ruined for any trueness. Not something I think you want to do with your classic =D.

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How do you know if the body is twisting? All my panel gaps are still good. No Wrinkles in the quarters or roof. I never dynoed my car, but I would guess 550 fwhp/tq. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/69410045_177035.htm It is getting frame connectors and 10 pt cage now along with 200-250 more hp.
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How do you know if the body is twisting? All my panel gaps are still good. No Wrinkles in the quarters or roof. I never dynoed my car, but I would guess 550 fwhp/tq. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/69410045_177035.htm It is getting frame connectors and 10 pt cage now along with 200-250 more hp.
Get someone to take video from the drivers or passenger side rear corners. Make sure you can see down the line of the car. That's the best place to take chassis tuning video anyhow =D.

It'll be pretty apparent if it's twisting enough to do any damage!

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Old 09-30-2009, 09:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Stock chassis with slicks

A friend of mine that had several classic Mustangs over the years had a built 289, (He was a drag racer, fairly serious dragster at one time) and he tweaked his frame on the street messing around so the doors did not line up.

I was surprised, and he told me it's not that hard to do to a Mustang.
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