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finally ditching the grant steering wheel hub: question

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Having to replace my turn signal assembly (again) due to the grant steering wheel hub wearing down the horn contacts, I started researching alternatives since I don't want an OEM style wheel. I discovered the GT Performance GT3 3 bolt hub and a guy at CJ Pony assured me that my horn contacts won't wear down and grind with this hub like it does with the grant hub.

On to the question... One of the things that bugged me about the grant hub was how I had to bend the turn signal cancel pins substantially. From what I see of the GT3 hub, I get the impression I'll have to do the same thing with it. True? False? I suspect that an OEM 66 turn signal cancel cam won't work. If I'm right about that I wonder if the plastic 67 cancel cam would fit on the GT3 hub? That would seem a little more elegant than bending the pins. Not that it makes a huge difference but if I'm going to have to modify the GT3 installation anyway and the 67 part solves the problem, I like that approach.

So to state the question more simply, can I use a 66 cancel cam, can I use a 67 cancel cam, will the GT3 hub actually work without bending the pins, or do I have no choice but to bend the pins?
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If you like your Grant WHEEL that much why not drill it to match a 6-bolt adapter and use a Momo-style horn button?

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The 67 cancelling system was completely different, not gonna work. If the GT is made properly, the canceller should work. Your problem is you've been burned by the Grant, which has been manufactured since the 60's, with no improvement. And was always crap.

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My forever sharp wheel needed bending on the cancel pins and I ended up breaking them! They would hit the turn signal lever and it was super annoying. So now, I have no cancel and have to manually do it. I'll get some roll pins to fix it but they'll still need bending.


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Not a 66, but I used a Lecarra adapter for my wheel (1968) and everything works great. Maybe they have a hub for your set-up. I have a Moto-Lita wheel

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My forever sharp wheel needed bending on the cancel pins and I ended up breaking them! They would hit the turn signal lever and it was super annoying. So now, I have no cancel and have to manually do it. I'll get some roll pins to fix it but they'll still need bending.
Good to know. I'm eyeballing that steering wheel pretty hard.
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The one piece canceling "hickey" that came on the stocker piece will slip right on the Grant unit(IF you still have the stock piece!) It works flawlessly.
As for "grinding down the horn contact".......that may be because you have the steering column pulled up too tight. (It's adjustable ,you know) Loosen it and slide it down some to ease the pressure on the contact.
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Good to know. I'm eyeballing that steering wheel pretty hard.
Which wheel are you looking at?


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Which wheel are you looking at?
This one exactly:

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I swapped from the Grant adapter to a GT Performance adapter after I killed my Grant adapter (after a good 25,000 miles of driving). Just pulled the Grant off and stuck the GT Performance on. I didn't have to do any additional modifications to the turn signal switch or anything. Took about 5 minutes to swap.

I have a '66 and the stock original turn signal switch, amazingly.


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This one exactly:

I wanted that type of wheel at first.. I just had a concern about heat with the rear of the wheel being billet instead of leather covered etc. is that one a half wrap?


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I wanted that type of wheel at first.. I just had a concern about heat with the rear of the wheel being billet instead of leather covered etc. is that one a half wrap?
Yeah, half wrap. I'm considering painting the back side black so it soaks up fewer rays. Probably not the most practical solution in the TX sun, but there's never been much practical about this car. I like how it looks and prefer more wheel to grip.
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Yeah, half wrap. I'm considering painting the back side black so it soaks up fewer rays. Probably not the most practical solution in the TX sun, but there's never been much practical about this car. I like how it looks and prefer more wheel to grip.
I wanted the same wheel you do, but in black. Thinking the same thing.. less heat.
I just settled on a dark cherry color wood wheel, black stripe in it, black spoke. It sticks out big time but I like it a lot and it's comfortable. Just need to align the car so I don't have to use my Kung fu grip on it during braking or bumpy roads
Got this one, but from big dawg performance. They have the FORD horn button which is not available afaik on forever sharps site... the "pony" button looks a little wonky

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My forever sharp wheel needed bending on the cancel pins and I ended up breaking them! They would hit the turn signal lever and it was super annoying. So now, I have no cancel and have to manually do it. I'll get some roll pins to fix it but they'll still need bending.
Then it's made wrong. Avoid it. There are plenty of steering wheels on the market that are well made. I have installed quite a few Moto-Lita wheels, for instance, and they bolt in like OEM.

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