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69 is now painted and is the most beautiful black in the garage, however when in direct sunlight it looks brownish. Does anyone knows how to remedy this like with more wet sanding or polish? Thanks

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69 is now painted and is the most beautiful black in the garage, however when in direct sunlight it looks brownish. Does anyone knows how to remedy this like with more wet sanding or polish? Thanks

It's mostly a function of the pigment.

It's a little late now but SPI's black is a black black because it uses an extremely fine pigment grind. The goal was to make other black cars look brown when parked next to an SPI black car.


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My '65 Galaxie was almost painted twice for this very reason. Looked great on the chip, looked great on the test panel inside, my painter suggested natural light first.... glad he did- it looked brown. He chose a different black and I'm much happier with it- inside and out. I know this isn't what you wanted to hear, so hopefully someone else chimes in with a possible solution for you.
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Absolutely nothing you can do about it. I had an OE replacement hood painted to match my car. When I got the car back, I noticed a mismatch from the hood to the fender. I couldn't blame the painter because the headlight bezel that I gave him to match had been repainted by the PO. The hood was a perfect match to that part. Needless to say, I'll be having the hood repainted. One of the blackest colors was GM's "Tuxedo Black". Ford's "Raven Black" will definitely look brown next to it.


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My painter used House of Kolor Jet Black and I would recommend it wholeheartedly.
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It's mostly a function of the pigment.

It's a little late now but SPI's black is a black black because it uses an extremely fine pigment grind. The goal was to make other black cars look brown when parked next to an SPI black car.


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This is SPI's black. Single stage. Like I said, beautiful and very dark black inside or in shade. Different story in the sunlight. I've sanded with 1500,2000,3000 trizact, and 5000 trizact. Buffing and polishing with Wizards system.
Another funny thing about this. When sanding I see NO defects or orange peel before buffing, after buffing I see peel that I couldn't see while it was in it's sanded state.

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I went to a car show over the weekend just to look around. I talked to the owners of two different black cars. Believe it or not both cars were painted three times to meet their standards. I hope I am not in line for the same thing.

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I love black cars/trucks, and was going to paint my next one black as well, but with all the work the box is going to need, I may go with white or even a blue. Black is beautiful, but it can show more waves than a busload of kids!
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I had the same thing with a 28 Ford speedster that I made . I was told by an expert that to get the brown tint out to add a dark blue to it. Too late for you now but I think That you're stuck with it.
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I bought a Black 1990 Escort brand new off the lot , In April of that year so it was raining a lot first time after washing the car and being in the sun yep looked brown

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This is SPI's black. Single stage. Like I said, beautiful and very dark black inside or in shade. Different story in the sunlight. I've sanded with 1500,2000,3000 trizact, and 5000 trizact. Buffing and polishing with Wizards system.

Another funny thing about this. When sanding I see NO defects or orange peel before buffing, after buffing I see peel that I couldn't see while it was in it's sanded state.

How many coats?

I don't know if there's a difference between their black base coat and single stage. I only do basecoat. If it looks brown you should definitely call them.

I assume you're wet sanding? A trick I do to help with that is to squeegee the water off and then blow it dry. As it starts to dry the low spots dry last.


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I put on four coats.
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I had the same thing with a 28 Ford speedster that I made . I was told by an expert that to get the brown tint out to add a dark blue to it. Too late for you now but I think That you're stuck with it.
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That's what I was told when I asked a custom painter about black. He's known in the area for his deep black street rod's. I was told the blackest black had a blue toner added to take out the brown. The next time I stop in, he'd give me the mixing ratio's.

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I put on four coats.
Can you pick up the brown color in the sun in a picture? I'm curious to see it. I've seen SPI black cars before and they're BLACK. What speed activator did you use? A fast activator can give it a grayish color. How heavy were your coats? What color of primer did you use beneath? They have so much solids in their finish that four coats should be more than plenty coverage, unless you were putting on really light coats for some reason.

I'm actually painting a 72 Corvette with their black base later this summer.


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Can you pick up the brown color in the sun in a picture? I'm curious to see it. I've seen SPI black cars before and they're BLACK. What speed activator did you use? A fast activator can give it a grayish color. How heavy were your coats? What color of primer did you use beneath? They have so much solids in their finish that four coats should be more than plenty coverage, unless you were putting on really light coats for some reason.

I'm actually painting a 72 Corvette with their black base later this summer.
I can't seem to get a good picture of it. I believe I did use fast activator, what they recommended. I used black 2k primer from SPI. Four medium to heavy coats. I knew I was gonna have to sand a lot. Barry suggest that I let it set in the sun for a few more days. I see brown, my wife see's a grayish color. Definitely very black in the garage. Your vette will look sweet wearing SPI black.

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