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Old 05-08-2001, 09:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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hi, i am considering buying a 1964 1/2 mustang gt fastback
with a 289. its a v-8 with a 4 speed trannie and a 10.5.1 compression ratio. the guy has asked me to make an offer. i
don't know what the value of this car is. it does have some
body problems, but the engine and frame are in good shape.
it is listed as the 67th car made off the line. the doors
have buckled some from being left out in the weather, but i
believe its just a matter of replacing the brackets. anyone
out there have a value?

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Old 05-08-2001, 09:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I did not think there were any fastbacks that would be considered as 64 1/2.

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Old 05-08-2001, 09:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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No value -
There was not a 64-1/2 fastback, nor a 64-1/2 GT. The 2+2 (fastback) body style was not available until September of 64 (making it a "true" 65), and the GT package was not available until April of 65....
Watch out - this smells "fishy".

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Old 05-08-2001, 09:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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john is right but i have seen instances where 64 1/2 parts made it into an early fastback. i'm thinking of the hood bumpers specifically. someone might spot a few 64 1/2 parts and declare they have a 64 1/2 fastback though they were all truly considered 65s.

here is a price guide that i go by: http://www.classicpony.com/Price%20G...rice_guide.htm

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according to the title it was made in august 1964 and they
are calling it a 64 1/2? well... if it is a 65? would you know the value so i can consider an offer?

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It is impossible for the car to be the 67th Mustang off the line. The fastback was not introduced until Sep 64 and therefore has a consecutive unit number > 125000 for San Jose cars and 250000 for Dearborn cars.

Post the VIN so we cane determine more info. It is even possible someone butchered an early coupe by putting a fastback roof on it.

Sorry, but this would be a car to walk away from.

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Old 05-08-2001, 10:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Before you get too discouraged, just post the VIN here and we can tell you a little more about the car. And yes, it couldn't have been the 67th car off the line (or a real GT with an Aug. build date), but it certainly could have been the 67th 65 fastback off the line at its assembly plant.

It may be a nice car, it may be some kind of amalgam of coupe and fastback parts - we can help if you give us the VIN and the codes off the data plate on the driver's door - if it's still there.

Whatever it is, it should not have serious rust. Otherwise, it's not worth buying.

Good luck. Let us know what you find out.

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It is not possible, Glen, for a fastback to have such a low consecutive unit number. Please see my reply below.

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The main component that would differentiate a 64.5 from a 65 would be the generator vs alternator.
There were a lot of "64.5" parts that were used WELL into the 65 build year - like the hood bumpers, carpet, window/door handles, spare tire holddown, and center-off 2 spd heater. My 65 FB has all of the above items, with a late 64 build date - San Jose Car 5R09C1574XX.

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No, no....I agree Paul...Not talking about the overall sequence number...Just the fact that it could have been the 67th fastback at that plant...Nothing more implied.

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i am going to see it on saturday so i will check out the vin number and get back to you all. thanks for all of your input on this. maybe i will even take a picture of it. thanks again!

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I would have to agree, fishy fishy fishy. I mean, its a fastback, gt, 4 speed, the only thing worse would be if they were telling you it was a hipo. Could it have been a cut car?? Maybe a front clip off an early car grafted onto a fastback body?

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Some clues...
Measure the "Mustang" on the fender
Tell us where the horns are located
Does it have backup lights?
Take a picture of the front corner of the hood and the headlight buckets.
Generator or alternator?

Personally, if the title was clear and the car was clean and rust free (relatively *G*), I'd offer what a normal 65 V8 FB would sell for...out here, in CA, in the 6.5-9K range for an unremarkable example...

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Is it possible to have a typo on the title? I have heard of this sort of thing happening before. The DMV (or at least California DMV) has been known to make mistakes.

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