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Old 03-26-2003, 08:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well I just received a nice surprise !
My new Edelbrock performer intake will not fit my 69 351 windsor engine ! I have a 8 bolt per head intake and Edelbrock only make's a 6 bolt per head intake , there lititure says nothing about this and of course when I ordered the intake acording to there information it was wrong and am now being told edelbrock does not make a 16 bolt intake, so now I have reordered a offenhauser intake , seems they are the only one's who make an 16 bolt unit ?
Has anybody else experienced this ?
Way did ford make 2 differant bolt pattern intake manifolds ? Is there something special about the 8 bolt unit?
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Old 03-26-2003, 08:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Don't worry about the extra bolt holes! Just use the manifold as is. It's a very common thing to do. What to you think the 302 guys do when they use 351W heads?
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Old 03-26-2003, 09:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well thats not the only probelm, the thermostat opening in located comming out the front instead of the top !
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Old 03-26-2003, 09:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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*OH* We have a 69 Grande with a 351W 4V, and I haven't noticed that! I'll have to check.

That COULD be a problem then*G*
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Old 03-26-2003, 09:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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No, we have a 69 Mach 1 and the book doesn't differenciate between a mustang or a Granada !
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Old 03-26-2003, 09:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Huh The W should have the thermostat housing attached to the intake. A Cleveland thermostat housing, IIRC, is attached to the block.

My brand new RPM Air Gap intake has 6 holes per side and it is for my 351W.

I don't mean to to question you like this, but are you sure it's a Windsor?[IMG]/forums/images/icons/shocked.gif[/IMG]
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Ok, yes the t-stat housing does attach to the intake manifold, but the intake manifold that edelbrock sent me have the t-stat housing comming straight out the front instead of out the top of the manifold.
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I don't ever remember a Windsor intake having a t-stat housing coming out of the top of the intake manifold

Heck, I could be wrong!![IMG]/forums/images/icons/shocked.gif[/IMG]
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Did your original manifold have the t-stat coming out of the top?
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I second that. I have a number of 302's, 351W's, and a 5.0. I have never seen a small block Ford manifold that didn't have a thermostat housing bolted to the FRONT of the intake.
Anything is possible I suppose, but I have doubts. I know little about 351C's or 351M's, other folks will have to chime in for the setup on those engines.
I know where there is a 71 or 72 Grande with a 351M in it right now, so don't everybody chime in saying it ain't possible. (The 351M was a transplant from a Torino, who knows why.)
You can use a 12 bolt intake on 16 bolt heads all day long. Just use the 69-70 style 16 bolt GASKETS. Most gasket sets will come will both types so you don't have to bother asking for 12 or 16 bolt types. Just use the ones that apply to you and chuck the others.
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Ok, I know for sure the engine is a 69 windsor, but some where along the line the intake could have been changed .
If I understand what you are implying is that the Ford windsor never had the T- Stat mounted on the top of the intake.
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Ok so why do you think that the manifold you are getting has a t-stat out of the top?No windsor motor has that type of setup.
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Can you show a pic of the proper windsor intake and T-stat housing arrangement ? That sure would be a help to me.
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Old 03-26-2003, 11:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I just took pictures of my new intake but I have no way of posting them. I could send it via an email, but I would need your address. Click on my username and send me an email and I'll just reply with a couple of pictures.

Unless, someone else can post some pictures of a Windsor intake.
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you might be able to see on this one
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