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Old 03-03-2004, 02:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What's the specific differences between a 260 V8 and a 289 V8? Are the blocks the same? I know the valve sizes are smaller, but what other specific differences make these two motors unique from eachother?
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Old 03-03-2004, 02:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The blocks are different.
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Old 03-03-2004, 02:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Going off of memory, the diffences are as follows:

* 260 has smaller bores, don't know if can be bored to 4" or not
* crank & rods are the same as 289 (and 221)
* Valves are smaller than later 289, however all small blocks up to a certain date had the smaller valve heads. I am not sure if the bigger valves could be pput in due to the small bore

Hope this helps some what, I am reciting this information from reading "How to Rebuild your Small Block Ford" by Tom Monroe. His book details all the differences, I would reccomend it if you are going to do a rebuild.
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Old 03-03-2004, 02:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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YAY, for the first time i can give a good "VMFer" response!

Well, there are some slight differences between the two - and here they are

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First the 260 has a slightly larger intake at the lifter (being 0.2375) than the 289 - but the HP289 was much larger..around 0.28xx). The exhaust lifts are the same for both.

The crankshaft casings are identical until 1968.

The cylinder block bore is 3.80 for the 260, and 4.00 for the 289. Note, the 260 CANNOT be bored out to accept heads from a 289 because the walls are too thin.

Intake valves are the same for both

The "1964" 289 had a 4v carb, unlike the 260 which has a 2v.

The combustion chamber in the 260 (EARLY) is around 45cc, whereas the 289 is 54.5. Some people (rumors) say that VERY EARLY 289s had less than 54.5cc...but I dunno.

The 45cc combustion (260) ratio to head is 9.9:1
the 54.5cc combustion (260) ratio to head is 8.7:1

The 289 - many early versions has over 10.x:1 for its 2v versions, and its 4v version is 11.5:1

For the 260-289 and even HP289, connecting rods and crankshafts are identical

The 260, 289, 289hp, and 302 blocks are IDENTICAL to the eye - would have some trouble determining the differences without having model numbers/uncover valve covers..etc.

As a general overview, the 260 cannot be bored out to take the 289 pistons - which is a fact many mistake here on the VMF - many people told me to put 289 pistons on my 260 - cant do it due to the 260s thin walls. The 289 has a 4 inch bore (0.20 greater than the 260) - thus has a higher compression (over 10.00)

But, for most who ask this question - the better one would be - "how can I make my 260 preform like a 289" - and the answers I have received have all been the same (cost effectivness):

1. Change out intake manifold with a 4v version
2. Slightly higher CFM rated carb
3. Change rear gearing
4. Upgrade cam
5. Better distributor, MSD ignition, starter coil...etc.
6. Dual exhaust conversion
7. Generator - alternator conversion (for 64 models)
8. radiator fan/shroud set up - may require new wiring

and thats about it.

Hope this was helpful
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