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Old 03-29-2007, 10:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone,

I have a few questions, but I also have a quick story so if you dont want to read the story then just skip to the bottom.

Today I went to a local mustang graveyard looking for front end parts, because a few weeks ago I rear-ended a Trailblazer in my 1970 Sportsroof and am in need of most of a new front clip, and am planning on taking the opportunity to drop in a 331 stroker with the new front end. I found a nice donor Mustang with good fenders and a hood which I was very close to buying ($250 for the fenders and hood), but I decided to take one last look around the yard before I did. The last time that I was there, the junkyard owner had told me that there were more mustangs that I didnt see, hidden half a mile in the woods, behind a house, caged in a fence. SO I decided to look and nothing special until the VERY LAST car, under a tarp. My friend calls me over and pulls the tarp and there is a Grabber Blue 1970 Mach 1. Very nice condition, floors and frame rails are gone, but the body panels are straight and no dings and very little visible rust other than the floors and quarters, black hood scoop, mach 1 grill, front lower splitter, white interior, 351 4v automatic trans, original stickers all over the car, power steering, quarter panels mostly gone... so on. I checked the door and there was no data plate. So I go back to the owner and ask him if its for sale and he says that it is, but the PO lost the title for it, ... and that he'll get back to me on the price.

I was just wondering if there was any way to have a title made for the car, (and/or a data plate) and most importantly if there is any way to check with a VIN number (which it did have in the window) to see if it is stolen or lost... so on. Any advice or input on how to approach this situation would be very much appreciated! Thanks!

Ill be posting some pictures soon, so if you guys want to take guesses at what its worth or have any idea then we can see what you guys say and then see whos good with estimates. (No prizes, sorry... hahaha :p )

1970 Mustang Mach 1

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Old 03-29-2007, 11:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Check out the link below on getting a title. New door tags can be had through Marti Auto Works and most parts houses. Don't know how you would go about looking to see if it is stolen other than going to your local police department or DMV.

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Old 03-29-2007, 11:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes, you can get a replacement title.
I think the name of the company is Broadway Title. Look in Hemmings Motor News or do a google search. More than one company does this if I remembe correctly.
You can get a replacement data tag, but in 1970 they are stickers not metal. Marti Autoworks in Arizona sells them.
You can ask your local police dept to run vin to see if there are reports of it being stolen. I think, however, the title co. will research that for you. If I am wrong, someone here will correct me.
If the car is stolen, the person who it was stolen from (or their insurance company) still owns the car.

Please post pics as soon as you can.
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Local Mustang graveyard? Where in MD are you? I haven't found any yards in the DC metro area that still have classic Mustangs worth picking over.
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Don't be suprised if the owner comes back with a unreasonable price. He's checking with people that "know" what these cars are worth. Hopefully he hasn't seen BJ auctions on TV.
Get ready for a shock.
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I agree that the owner is probably doing some homework. But if the price is reasonable, getting a new title may be worth the effort. Good luck. Mark
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Don't be suprised if the owner comes back with a unreasonable price. He's checking with people that "know" what these cars are worth. Hopefully he hasn't seen BJ auctions on TV.
Get ready for a shock.

Rust bucket 70 Mach1's are trading for $4500+
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I suspect that the owner will come back at you with an outrageous asking price. You should be prepared to talk him back to a reasonable, agreeable number that you both are comfortable with. I would think that a 1970 Mach I is worth the time and money for an exhaustive full scale restoration.
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Try this. Since the car has been sitting there a while, and it seems to have been owned by this same guy, how about just checking with the state that it is in about applying for a "lost title replacement". It the State has this on record by this guy, he just applies for a fresh copy. No big deal now is it?
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:26 AM   #10 (permalink)
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How 'bout "the dog ate the title"? Seems odd to me the guy has the car covered, must think it's special yet seems to have no prepared story on the title!
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I agree with Roddster, all it takes in Michigan is you and the legal owner walking into the secretary of state office (DMV) and telling them the original owner lost the title. They looked it up in the computer and can transfer the title over on the spot. At least they did this for me on as car my father-in-law sold me.

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Thanks for all the links and suggestions, I appreciate it!

I have not heard back from the owner yet, because he just left for a huge Ford show in Ohio (i believe??) with some parts and two other Mach 1's, one was a 1969 Red for $6500 and the other was a Green 1970 goin for $4500.

here is the link for the pictures of the car...
1970 Mach 1

I think that its worth the time and money


p.s. if you look at the headlights.. theres a wire cover type thing on them... has anyone ever seen that before/ know what they are?
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If you pass on this, I claim first dibs.
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If the money is reasonable, I would be on this car like white on rice.
I would be camped out along side this car until the seller returns and writes out a bill of sale.

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Old 03-30-2007, 06:16 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I've been wandering in junkyards around here for
18+ years, and never found anything as good as that.

I would go back over there and sit on the hood until the guy comes back.

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