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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-10-2007, 09:33 PM Thread Starter
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My brother is rebuilding his 351W in a 69 mach1.
Engine is out and he wants to install headers when it goes back in.
We are wondering what the best brand header is for the car with a 4 speed.
Anyone out there that has installed some? we are interested in hearing if any fit good without much modifications?
Just info on different manufacturers and how they worked for you would be appreciated.
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I talked to someone about this a couple weeks ago at a cruise-in...he said the only set of headers he could find that would fit in his 69 351w w/4 spd were the Hooker Engine Swap headers...bad news is that they are $450. He said that the Z bar got in the way of many of the other headers. Any set of shorty headers would work as well I would suppose.

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I have Hooker Comps on mine. Fit was fantastic, except where the driver's side goes past the scatter shield lip. You wouldn't have this problem if using a stock bell housing. I'm using a hydraulic clutch, though, so I had no clutch linkage problems.

One huge advantage of the Hooker Comps is that you don't need the PIA lowering bracket for power steering.

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dougsheaders.com try them they make excellent headers they make the only try y's I know of for 351w's.......
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These are the headers I used. They are spendy, but they are works of art. They tuck up under the body better than any other full length headers I've seen and they do clear the Z-bar.
http://www.fordpowertrain.com/FPAindex/headers1.htm

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Hi,

I have a 69 with 351W + 4 speed + power steering, I went with the FPA headers, they fit like a glove.

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post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-14-2007, 04:46 AM
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i've installed the dougs 3/4 and they fit perfect. i've got a 1970 mach1 with a 351w, fmx and power steering.















the only thing we had to modify was the linkage to the steering lock at the fmx itself. the kickdown-linkage still works but the locking doesn't work anymore.

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Those are the same headers I have on my 67, they are excellent!
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post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-14-2007, 03:45 PM
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hi ralph!

i know. i've bought them, after you told me they fit excellent. and you were right! :-)

thanx again!

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If you are not worried about price, hands down the best fitting header is the FPA headers. I have ceramic coated hooker comps and had very few fitment problems. AFAIK, neither require the power steering drop bracket.

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I have comp Hooker long tube headers, one small fitting issue with end of headers touching cross frame rail, but we bended them to clear...

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Speedfreak..which dougs headers were those? How much clearance did you have at the steering box?
Also, unrelated but how difficult was it to install the engine with the trans and headers bolted up?

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Speedfreak..
Also, unrelated but how difficult was it to install the engine with the trans and headers bolted up?
Yep been wonder that for part of the week here...all ears

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I have those headers too....they are 669y's and theres at least an inch from the steering box, I am using drop motor mounts in my 67 and the clearance is even better than stock.
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What are the performance goals? The Hipo manifolds should (??) fit the 351 and will take less modification than long tubes. Good compromise between stock log style units and tubular. If you want max power, though, you can't beat long tubes and the '69 body has room. I tried SuperComps in my '65 and even the muffler shop could get 'em in. The repop Hipos fit just fine. Just a thought.
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