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Old 12-06-2008, 05:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default California "Black Plate" price run-up

A side hobby I have is collecting vintage license plates, and man, the Cal black plates have taken off price wise. Would have been a good investment. I assume the run-up in price is due to the new law next year that allows them on vintage cars?
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Good assumption, I bought two sets anticipated the change last year.

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please explain...................... the "New law"
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please explain...................... the "New law"
Starts in Jul of '09 (IIRC). The below was recently ammended to include through 1969:

14.100Year of Manufacture Model Year Date Plates (VC §5004.1)
Year of Manufacture (YOM) license plates are any officially manufactured California license plates issued prior to 1963 that are determined to be legible and serviceable by the DMV. YOM plates may be assigned in lieu of regular license plates to any currently registered 1962 or older year model motor vehicle or trailer of a corresponding model year.
Kit cars of vintage automobiles (a replica of a 1928 vehicle for example) do notqualify for YOM plates. Vehicles with YOM plates have full operating privileges and are not restricted to participation in historical vehicle activities.
The plates must be supplied by the vehicle owner and authenticated by DMV personnel. Base year plates must have the appropriate year validation sticker attached to the plate to be authenticated as other than the base year (for example, a 1956 plate with a 1958 sticker equals a 1958 plate).
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I still got mine on the car in perfect condition....

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How much is "Going up"?
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How much is "Going up"?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1963-California-...1%7C240%3A1318
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'65 Coronet Wagon


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Old 12-07-2008, 02:43 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Just asking price lets see if anyone will pay it - betting No

If you want to see lic plate prices you should see New Zealand or Australian prices. Since people own them (they are not left on the car when sold) as private property a personalized plate is allot of $$'s when it’s a popular one. Seen $500-1000 up

Sorry the state ever got the idea of making these usable again. Going to be allot of
”original black plate” cars out there soon.
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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so this makes no sense...how does it apply to mustangs??

the newest mustang is a 65 unit, and if it applies to 63 and older, I don't get it??

besides, anyone with original black plates can still get them registered to their 60's vehicle, so I'm not understanding what this law is??

My bro just bought a 65 coupe yesterday, in cali, but out of the dmv system, sitting since 91. it's got the original black plates, and we'll be registering it with them. I know it shouldn't be a problem...
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Seen $500-1000 up
Way too low. Try 10x that, at least in Queensland. A set of "Prestige" (vanity) plates with 3-6 characters of your choice run you ~$2250 (starting price, some options run you even more)

If someone has a "desireable" Prestige plate for sale some folks will pay $5-10k for it...

Me, I'll buy another project car for that much!
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Old 12-07-2008, 11:12 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Just asking price lets see if anyone will pay it - betting No...
True Jeff, just asking price, but I didn't pick that link as the top price, it was a whopping $2-300 off the top priced ones ( Link1 Link2). They are changing hands for $75-200 a pair fairly regularly( Link3 ). That's not for restored plates, just nicely cleaned up pairs with mid-late 60s numbers. This wasn't the case a year ago, so I assume bill to allow the plates has driven up the price.

Certainly isn't scientific methodology, I'll admit, but I don't remember anyone asking $200+ a pair for these plates before.
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...the newest mustang is a 65 unit, and if it applies to 63 and older, I don't get it??...
I couldn't find the ammendment, but the law was ammended to include cars through 69.

What it means is you can take a Mustang that ended up anywhere, buy the black plates on evil bay, and legally register the car with them. Now when you see that car with the black plate, it could be an original black plate, or an import from Minnesota with the black plates on.

I'm sure a few Mustangs on ebay will be advertised as original Black plate cars after the law goes into effect.
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"So , let me get this straight; your Honda has 1.6 liters, whereas my bottle of diet Coke has 2?"

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I have a set from my coupe I sold and thought about selling them. I guess I'll hold on to them for a little while now.
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The black plates are generally 1963-1969. The catch with the impending law is that the plates can only be registered with cars from the year range of issue. 1967 would start with a letter S, T, or U generally.
It is my understanding that the California state DMV will be treating these plates like 'personalized' and charge the extra value for them. My 1968 Cougar has them originally, I hope they don't jack me up in fees.
California worked for years to replace these plates with modern ones. One of the main reasons for doing so was that the same 3 letter/3 number sequences were used over again with blue w/gold lettered plates starting about 1970.
"1 Adam 12 calling in plate ULR716"
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I think my method was a lot more cost effective. My car is an original black plate car but the plates were long since gone when I got it. I opted for a personalized plate and had the number made in black and gold plates. I was too impatient for the YOM effective date.
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