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Old 02-21-2009, 11:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been dealing with a problem ever since I had my top put on last summer. On the drivers side the top seems to be over extended. The frame dips down at the joint. When I close the door with the window up the window frame hits the steel of the convertible top. Is there a way to adjust this or was there a problem from the top install?

Thanks for any help you can give me. The passenger side does not have the same problem and it works great.

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Old 02-21-2009, 11:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Looks like a '68 hinge. There are two points of adjustment, the eccentric at the top of the balance link and the set-screw inside the hinge.

Back off the set screw and adjust the eccentric (allen head at top of link), this should take up the droop. Once the eccentric is adjusted reset the screw in the hinge.
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Thanks for the tip. I will look at it in the morning when it is a little lighter to see if I can find the eccentric you are talking about. I think I know where the set screw is.
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Upper end of the balance link in this shot:



Shot of the set screw, kinda hard to get to with the top on, need to fold the frame.

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Old 02-22-2009, 10:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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the ford shop manual gives you instructions on how to make neccessary adjustments.
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Old 02-22-2009, 03:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the help Richard and Paul. The pictures were a great help! I was able to get it adjusted and it works great now. One less thing on the to-do list.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Cool! Its funny but a lot of folks seem to think these tops are "complex".

When I restored my '68 some said not to touch it... "too hard".

In reality thre are few adjustments. Header to windscreen, balance link (rail camber), and one bow height (IIRC #2, maybe #3, and from what I've seen maybe two on earlier models). So if you take it apart it can really only go back together one way, and the adjustmetns are pretty straightforward...

Glad you got it sorted.
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Dalarzo, what do you think of powder coating the entire frame. I did this once on a VW vert and it worked fine. I didn't even take the frame apart. Do you think it would work for a stang. Have you ever done it? What about needing to take it apart?

Since the OP seems to be done with this thread, I thought I'd ask. Thanks
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I debated it, but after talking to my shop and giving it some thoght decided to paint mine.

The downsides I could see were two areas (and one question I never resolved):

1. The nylon bushes in the side links would likely melt (no way to easily remove). You could paint these and powder coat the rest.

2. If the bushing areas were not masked up then you would have to scrape/drill out the coating to get the bushes in.

The question was the windshield header material. Not sure if the high temps for powdercoating would affect it, not sure of the alloy. Very soft.

Paint also allows the option for matching touchups a bit easier as the top will get dings in normal use...
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While we're on the subject....I have a '65 vert. I've tried the adjustments shown in the manual but I can't seem to get the driver's side frame over the window level; it dips as well. Before I dig into it, does anyone have any ideas? I suspect I'll need to bush or shim the eccentric to tighten it up to get full adjustment back (I hope!). Thought I 'd check. Thanks..
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I debated it, but after talking to my shop and giving it some thoght decided to paint mine.
Did you paint it on the car or off? As an assembled unit or disassembled?
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Old 02-25-2009, 06:25 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Painted off car, compeletely disassembled. Had all new bushings machined up as many were well worn or cracked or missing.

On your '65 with sag, is the main hinge solid? It is non-adjustable and have seen some wear out. Checked the link for wear or missing/damaged bushings allowing too much play? Also does the top go up/down properly? The link can go in the wrong way, but the top won't operate properly, will jam up (ask me know I know!).

Semi-realted question, on your '65 at Bow#3 is there an up and down adjustment? Or just at Bow#2?
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mine seams to be just the opposite,, my 73 mustang frame sits fine when in the up position,, but fold it down,, it stays up higher in the well than others I have saw on this sight,,,
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i have been dealing with a problem ever since i had my top put on last summer. On the drivers side the top seems to be over extended. The frame dips down at the joint. When i close the door with the window up the window frame hits the steel of the convertible top. Is there a way to adjust this or was there a problem from the top install?

Thanks for any help you can give me. The passenger side does not have the same problem and it works great.

http://s206.photobucket.com/albums/b...t=imgp1771.jpg

i'm having the exact same problem... I'll try the tricks below tonight..
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