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Old 09-12-2009, 08:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have tried for a while to get my 69 key cylinder into the ignition switch and can't figure it out. I know the trick with the paper clip to remove it... I know that you are suppose to line up the ends... But it still won't engage all the way. Am I suppose to have the key turned in a certain position? Please help me, I'm going nuts!
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I believe it comes out in the "ACC" position. Have you tried to install it that way?
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I have this one remembered for mine. The clip goes in with it in the ACC position and only slightly. I kept thinking the clip goes in all way, bit mine onlt needs to go in very slightly.
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I must be missing the boat on something. I have tried all of the things above to no avail.. I have even tried it on two systems... Any other ideas out there? Thanks
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Well, you need to do the paper clip trick to install it also, make sure the switch itself is fully counterclockwise, you can do that with a screwdriver, then, hold the tumbler (back part of the key assembly) and turn the key to the acc postion, get your paper clip, push in the small button that's in the hole and turn the key even farther counterclockwise while holding the tumbler. Then it will be in the proper position to install back in the switch.

If you have been trying to install it in the acc position it will do what you are describing, it won't get past the part that holds the assembly in place, the same piece that wont let you pull the key out in the acc position.
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I had problems getting the one back in my 68 and I had to leave it alone for awhile and kept going back and trying it and then it suddenly popped in on one of the tries. The thing is, I don't know what I did differently so I didn't learn anything or figure out exactly why it cooperated all of a sudden.......and I hate that! Although I'm happy it finally went together.
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Thank you for the detailed info! I'm going out to try again!
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It worked! Thanks
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If you look very carefully at the back of the front flange of the lock cylinder, you will see the grooved area where the brass locking tumbler slides around in it. The movement from ACC to Start is one smooth slide but to get to the removal position just to the left of ACC there is a slight hump. It is in the position just to the left of ACC that the lock cylinder goes in and out. that locking brass tumbler is supposed to only allow the flange to rotate within the grooved area. If it were to go past the grooved area in any direction, the cylinder would then spin all the way around and the guts would come out with the little key tumblers going WOO HOO. Just always remember that the lock cylinder goes in and out when it's in that last position just past ACC and it should work for you.

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Well, you need to do the paper clip trick to install it also, make sure the switch itself is fully counterclockwise, you can do that with a screwdriver, then, hold the tumbler (back part of the key assembly) and turn the key to the acc postion, get your paper clip, push in the small button that's in the hole and turn the key even farther counterclockwise while holding the tumbler. Then it will be in the proper position to install back in the switch.

If you have been trying to install it in the acc position it will do what you are describing, it won't get past the part that holds the assembly in place, the same piece that wont let you pull the key out in the acc position.
Nothing like having these great archives to search. I've been fighting with installing the ignition switch on my 68 Vert and your solution worked like a charm. The key (at least to me) was holding the tumbler and getting it ready prior to installing it in the switch. This is a great forum! I should've searched sooner, I spent an hour or better fooling around with this until I found this answer! Thanks Gregb!
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Don't touch that key when you remove that thing. I just fought for hours trying to figure out the problem. What I found was that if you practice wihtout the switch on the dash, you can figure out where it should be much easier than after the switch is installed.

Also, this is 20x easier if you take the gauge cluster out. I personally could not get my hand in from the underneath.
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