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Old 04-17-2010, 06:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Type-F ATF Equivalent or Replacement???

I need to fill my cars Automatic Transmission and Power Steering Fluids, I went all around the auto parts shops in my country to look for Type-F but with no luck.

I recently purchased a 1966 Mustang 289 C-code with Automatic trans and power steering, from the US and had it shipped abroad to my country and I realized I will not Find Type-F as older ford cars are not common so demand for Type-F is not required.

My question is is there an equivalent to that which I can buy and fill my car with as a permanent switch?

If not then is there another power steering fluid I can use till I sort this out. I need to drive the car for approximately 6 trips of 30mins each So if I can fill the power steering with a different type/grade fluid temporary and flush it when I get the Type-F


If there is not permanent replacement I will need to order some Type-F ATF from the US and have it shipped to my country. (if some one can help me out with this if this is the last resort that would be helpful)

BTW either way I need to fill my power steering fluid,, so I need an alternative as the reservoir is empty, for the auto transmission I can wait a while but not for the power steering.
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Here we have a Universal P/S fluid that works fine, and many manufactures make Type F, Exxon, Mobil, Havoline etc, and I believe Mercon H replaces Type F.
Try calling Auto Parts Stores they might have a replacement listed under another name. Ford Type F is used by Austin-Morris, Diahatsu, Jaguar, Mazda, Rover, Saab, Toyota, and John Deere hydrostatic systems.
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The best (in my opinion) is Redline racing atf. It meets Type F specs and is some tough fluid. Expensive tho. You can EASILY run it 50K miles with no problem. I run an external filter and an extra capacity alum. pan. John--Las Vegas.
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I need to fill my cars Automatic Transmission and Power Steering Fluids, I went all around the auto parts shops in my country to look for Type-F but with no luck.

I recently purchased a 1966 Mustang 289 C-code with Automatic trans and power steering, from the US and had it shipped abroad to my country and I realized I will not Find Type-F as older ford cars are not common so demand for Type-F is not required.

My question is is there an equivalent to that which I can buy and fill my car with as a permanent switch?

If not then is there another power steering fluid I can use till I sort this out. I need to drive the car for approximately 6 trips of 30mins each So if I can fill the power steering with a different type/grade fluid temporary and flush it when I get the Type-F


If there is not permanent replacement I will need to order some Type-F ATF from the US and have it shipped to my country. (if some one can help me out with this if this is the last resort that would be helpful)

BTW either way I need to fill my power steering fluid,, so I need an alternative as the reservoir is empty, for the auto transmission I can wait a while but not for the power steering.
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First, complete your profile with your location. It might help us help you better if we know your town and state. NAPA carries type F.
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Hi,
First, complete your profile with your location. It might help us help you better if we know your town and state. NAPA carries type F.
Im not in the states im in Bahrain its a small island in the middle east. I tried alot of auto shops and they dont carry Type-F its not common to see Ford cars older than the 90s in Bahrain, so there is no demand for it.

What if I use Motorcraft Type-M for the power steering

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Im not in the states im in Bahrain its a small island in the middle east. I tried alot of auto shops and they dont carry Type-F its not common to see Ford cars older than the 90s in Bahrain, so there is no demand for it.

What if I use Motorcraft Type-M for the power steering

Bahrain, eh?

Perhaps, someone else will chime in, I'm not familiar with Type M. However, I have used the "universal" type pwr steering fluid. If you were a little closer, I'd ship you a couple quarts of Type F, I have left over from when I was running a C4.
Good Luck in your quest! ...don't be shy, add the "Bahrain" location.
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You can use Ford Mercon III or Mercon V. I have used them for several years now with no ill effects. Ford has also approved them for use. What I would NOT use is a 'universal' PS fluid. I am a 34 year Ford tech.
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You can use Ford Mercon III or Mercon V. I have used them for several years now with no ill effects. Ford has also approved them for use. What I would NOT use is a 'universal' PS fluid. I am a 34 year Ford tech.
Hey Ford tech,

Thanks for the advisement!
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You can use Ford Mercon III or Mercon V. I have used them for several years now with no ill effects. Ford has also approved them for use. What I would NOT use is a 'universal' PS fluid. I am a 34 year Ford tech.
Can I use those for both the power steering and auto trans? or just the ps
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I went ahead with Mercon V from motorcraft for the Power Steering, Im just wondering whats the worse that could happen with the power steering with wrong fluid?

as for the transmission I waiting to know what the person who rebuild it used after the rebuild and I found a lead thanks to a fellow mustanger from france, he pointed out
Total ATF 33.

So I went to Totals Agent in my country and they do not stock it but the guy in charge said he might be able to order it for me and he will get back to me.
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For Mercon V, most vendors licensing the name are not recommending its use in transmissions specifying Type F.

Castrol USA - MERCON V

Valvoline.com > Products > Automatic Transmission Products > Automatic Transmission Fluid > Valvoline MERCON® V ATF

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Not sure why, maybe a CYA, just a heads up as I found this info when looking into the subject a while back...
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Over the years each time there was a new fluid we were told not to use it in the older cars. Stories of failing friction materials were the most common reason. I'm thinking CYA was the reason because they never had a reason to test the new formula in an older system. Always move forward. My '66 C-4 6-cyl. has never been apart and has been running Mercon III for at least 18 years with NO problems. The other '66 has been running
Mercon V in the trans and PS for over a year. All is well. If anyone is not comfortable with that, then by all means hunt down the type F. I just haven't seen a reason to anymore.
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