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Old 05-19-2010, 08:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 66 mustang 289 with power steering and want to convert to manual steering. I have googled this topic and getting mixed reviews with what's needed for the conversion. Anyone with experience, can I do the conversion by just swapping out to a manual center link? If so, does anyone have instructions on how to do this.
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You can change to manual center link and outer tie rod end and idler. Or I have seen kits to replace the control valve and keep everything else. If you have an original 5 turn box you should be OK.
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Do I need the outer tie rod end and idler to complete the swap? I was under the impression of maybe this is all of what I needed.

http://www.mustangsplus.com/xcart/pr...3&cat=0&page=1
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First, if you leave the existing steering gear box in place, the car will be "harder" to turn the wheel. As long as you are OK with that, then there is no issue. The power box is a 4 to 1, and the non power is a 5 to one.

The right side inner and outer tie rods remain the same. The center link, and the inner and outer left side need to be changed, and the sleeve. If you get picky, the idler arm bushing needs to be changed also.

Here are the parts you need:

Tie Rod Sleeve: C2AA-3310-A (same as the right side)
Inner Tie Rod: C5ZZ-3a131D (same as the right side)
Outer Tie Rod: C5ZZ-3a130D (same as the right side)
Center Link: C5ZZ-3304-D

If you want to clean up your engine pit, you can remove the double groove crank and water pump pulleys, and replace them with singles, remove the power steering ram bracket that attaches to the frame, and the hose bracket that attaches to the lower control arm.

You can also make some money by selling the parts you take off. Send me a PM if you want some realistic prices on the take off stuff.

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I have a 66 mustang 289 with power steering and want to convert to manual steering. I have googled this topic and getting mixed reviews with what's needed for the conversion. Anyone with experience, can I do the conversion by just swapping out to a manual center link? If so, does anyone have instructions on how to do this.
You can change to Factory V8 Manual steering by changing the centerlink as you have already noted.

The need to change the Drivers side tie rods is not necessary a have to as the PS drivers side will bolt on the Manual centerlink, Just realign after installing manual centerlink.

Doing it right, install Drivers side!

Idlers are same, Manual, or PS.

The present 4 turn "PS" box will be a hard steer situation as others have stated. 5 turn manual steering box will steer easier.

I'd be interested in trading

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As I recall, which could be wrong, the manual Shelby box was a power steering box with a different preload. May have also had a different arm too.

As pointed out the PS box has a higher rate so it take some more arm to swing.

Just sometin to keep in mind depending on what you are going for. I know for day to day driving I would go with power.
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You can change to Factory V8 Manual steering by changing the centerlink as you have already noted.

The need to change the Drivers side tie rods is not necessary a have to as the PS drivers side will bolt on the Manual centerlink, Just realign after installing manual centerlink.

Doing it right, install Drivers side!

Idlers are same, Manual, or PS.

The present 4 turn "PS" box will be a hard steer situation as others have stated. 5 turn manual steering box will steer easier.

I'd be interested in trading
Disclosure- My 66 has 4-turn manual steering.

That said, if you want remove this desirable option, by all means sell the PS bits to Chock. He'll find someone who wants them. Who knows, in a few years maybe you'll be buying them back from him. PS was rare when these cars were new, with narrow bias-ply non belted tires. Now, though, most of us are using wide steel radials, and the steering is a lot stiffer.
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by all means sell the PS bits to Chock
I disagree! Sell the "bits" to ME!!
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As stated the swap is pretty straight foward. Personally most of my cars are manual steering but they all run the power steering box as it is the same as the G.T.'s, Shelbies, and Special Handling package cars. The only difference is the tag# HCC AX = G.T.ETC. ,HCC AW = power steering. If you have one of these boxes you should keep it.
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As stated the swap is pretty straight foward. Personally most of my cars are manual steering but they all run the power steering box as it is the same as the G.T.'s, Shelbies, and Special Handling package cars. The only difference is the tag# HCC AX = G.T.ETC. ,HCC AW = power steering. If you have one of these boxes you should keep it.

My 64 1/2 vert (sig pic) had the handling package manual steering and 4 speed. Loved it!
Hey I was 24 and very active in most sports. My toy back then was my 37 Ford which had mechanical (non hydraulic) brakes!

I hasten to add that today there's no way I could drive either of them except at speed!!
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I hasten to add that today there's no way I could drive either of them except at speed!!
I hear ya. That's why I warned Mustang_66.
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