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Old 06-22-2010, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was at a car show and saw a 69 Shelby with a 427 in it. It said super snake on some of the parts in the engine bay. Was this a factory engine for this car ? I am just curious !!
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Old 06-22-2010, 05:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No 427's were installed in 69 Shelby's. If it was an original GT500, it would have come with a 428 Cobra Jet
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Old 06-22-2010, 05:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nope, nothing came from the factory like that, and all Shelby production had moved East to Detriot by that time.

I've seen one or two 69-70 Shelby's before with 427's, owner-installed...
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back in the 1970's i knew 2 guys in jackson mississpi with 67 gt 500 shelbys and both had 427 med risers in them and those engines were put in by the owners. the 2 cars came from the factory with 390's.
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Thank's guys, I had plenty of people disagreeing with me. I was saying the same thing you guys are saying, that I have never seen a 427 in any mustang, only in the orig. ford cobra.
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There was one 427 powered GT-500 made in 1967. It was a special deal where Shelby had a 427 installed and called it a Super Snake. It was utilized for some tire testing. It was determined that the cost of the 427 was prohibitive and that Shelby would continue producing and selling GT-500's with 428 engines.

Info and photos of the car here, 1967 Shelby GT500 - Gallery # 18 - "Super Snake"
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You might want to check out 4280 ( Troy ) in the pacific northwest section as he has a documented 68 GT500 with a factory installed 427.
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A few other 67 Shelbys came with factory 427's - very small number- but the SAAC is all over them with documentation I think - and as said above no 69's came from Ford with 427's between their shock towers.
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Back in the 70's I had a 69 GT500 with the 428 and just down the road from me was a guy with an identical GT500 except it was a 70 that had a dealer installed 427. That car surfaced again awhile back, KAR in Columbus Ohio had it.
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There were exactly three 67 GT500's made with factory installed 427's. The Supersnake had a NASCAR prepped 427 medium-riser with aluminum heads and is car number 544. The other two were 427's were medium-risers street form. They were car numbers 289 and 1947.

Here is a better link for info on the Supersnake: SuperSnake.org :: Home of the 67 Shelby GT500 SuperSnake

As of the 1997 printing (the most recent) Shelby American World Registry, there were no 68 GT500's produced with factory installed 427's. There is no mention of a factory installed 427 in car number 4280 in the registry. I would be curious to see documentation on that car to make that claim.

According to Kevin Marti, there were no Mustangs built period with a 427. There were however aprox 350 68 Cougars made with the 427 low-riser engine.
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According to Kevin Marti, there were no Mustangs built period with a 427. There were however aprox 350 68 Cougars made with the 427 low-riser engine.[/quote]
my landlord has one of those 68 cougar GT-E cars sitting beside the house here wasting away. no he aint selling it and swears he will fix it up. i dont think he will.
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I did some research looking thru some of my old mustang magazines and books, and came across similar readings of very limited number of 67 and 68 mustangs with the 427 in them. I still have not come across anything on a 69 having the 427. I saw this car at a local cruise, maybe he will be there again where I can get some dirt on his car and I will share the info.
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I did some research looking thru some of my old mustang magazines and books, and came across similar readings of very limited number of 67 and 68 mustangs with the 427 in them..
This 427 Mustang topic has been rumored and argued to death many times. Your magazines and books are simply incorrect.

Kevin Marti (of Marti Auto Works) has all the original Ford documents on Mustang production 1967 and up. He has verified no W-code (427 engine) Mustangs were ever made.

I believe some period Ford publications may have incorrectly listed the 427 available for the Mustang, but they were in error. This is no doubt where all the rumors of 427 Mustangs began.
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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in 68.5 the 428 was first offered in the mustang. it was said by ford that the 428 was the engine of choice for the consumer due to it more low end torque than the 427. the 427 was better suited for higher rpm and longer stroke of the 428 had more low end power. the buick GS of the day was a powerhouse on the street cause it had lots a low end. the 427 was primarly designed for stock car racing. the 428 mustang was fords answer to the bb camaros. in 1967 there was a monster movie called GAMERA but i thought they wuz talkin bout the new chebby sports car !

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Old 06-23-2010, 02:30 AM   #15 (permalink)
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That and the 428 was a lot cheaper to make, and you have to admit, Ford was, well, thrifty, the 427 required some specialized machining, especially the side oiler versions.
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