I have seen some picture of 64 1/2 mustangs with an oilbath type aircleaner or at least some sort of aircleaner that is not as big as the usual paper element types see mostly. These appear to be factory. Any one know why the difference? just wondering if they are correct.
thanks
GB
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V8? in 64 1/2-65 they should use the Early Fairlane Style Air Cleaner with the Small Diameter Lid. The Bowl with Full Top Lid started in 1966, as far as I know. 64 1/2-65 V8 should have a Gold Air Cleaner with Black Exhaust/Heat Riser Snorkel. From What I remember, the 4V had Extra Divots and Notches on the underside to clear the AutoLite Flat-Top Carburetor. 2V Base did not have these extra notches. IMHO .
I have heard this story both ways.I was first told that the 64 1/2 mustangs shared the smaller air cleaner with the Fairlane and Falcon. Then someone told me that the Mustang never used that small pumpkin type and that all early Mustangs used the larger one with the full lid.My 64 1/2 came from California and it had the larger one with some emission pieces added to it.According to one restoration magizine I have the early cars with the 260 were borrowed from the Fairlane family and the smaller air cleaner was used on the Mustangs.I think its when they went to the 289 that the larger one was used.
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"when all is said and done,usually more is said than done".
Oil bath? Nope. The Fairlane had a rounded air cleaner with a small lid in the middle of the top. While it's possible someone at the factory put the wrong one on a car, mostly it's from later replacement. The 260 and 289 Mustang had the same air cleaner.
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Again, my restoration guide shows a picture of the Fairlane air cleaner with the small lid on a 260 engine in a 64 1/2 Mustang. I've seen it before.Not that you are wrong but you could be mistaken.LOL you know how this stuff goes with these cars.
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"when all is said and done,usually more is said than done".
Gentlemen, I believe it's widely accepted that Bob Mannel is THE guru when it comes to Ford small blocks and all things related. If you have a copy of his book, Mustang & Ford Small Block V8, refer to page 4-32. Bob has addressed this very subject. For those that don't have a copy, the Mustang had the larger 17" air cleaner (260 OR 289)...not the small Fairlane style. If you disagree, argue it with Bob. Good luck though, the man has done his research!!
Hope that clears it up!
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By Oil Bath do you mean the Crankcase Vent Tube? I have one in my store that definitely came off of an Early Mustang, because I do not work with other Early Fords. Proving Originality to the Mustang is out the window, as the car it came from has most likely been gone for years, but this isn't the only one I have had.
Here's what the setup on my D-coder looks similar to:
The only difference is the air cleaner housing on mine has the little hose which runs to the valve cover breather. I'm unclear if it is 'authentic' but I did buy it from the second owner about 20 years ago and it appeared to be an unmolested engine.
Gentlemen, I believe it's widely accepted that Bob Mannel is THE guru when it comes to Ford small blocks and all things related. If you have a copy of his book, Mustang & Ford Small Block V8, refer to page 4-32. Bob has addressed this very subject. For those that don't have a copy, the Mustang had the larger 17" air cleaner (260 OR 289)...not the small Fairlane style. If you disagree, argue it with Bob. Good luck though, the man has done his research!!
My 260 has the large 17 inch and I believe it is original. It has a closed emissions set up on it with a a tube running from the airclearer side to the valve cover oit filler. I believe this is a California set up...my car has a 71 DSO. sine i've had the car I've been "amused" by the smaller rounded ones I've seen on others.
GB
GB
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The only difference is the air cleaner housing on mine has the little hose which runs to the valve cover breather. I'm unclear if it is 'authentic' but I did buy it from the second owner about 20 years ago and it appeared to be an unmolested engine.
Thats what mine has too.
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The 64 1/2-70 Mustang Restoration Guide and the 64-73 Mustang Recognition Guide both show the 260 Motor with the Early Small Air Cleaner. I have had quite a few Mustang 260 with this air cleaner. This Air cleaner might have been Limited to 260 Engine, and maybe not all of them, but it DID Exist Factory in a Mustang. Maybe they started phasing out the Small Diameter and some of the 260 cars received the Air Cleaner Posted above. Not Quite Sure.
I always thought that because Ford got the 260 from the Fairlane group that the small air cleaner came with it.Later when they went to the 289 it had the larger one. Whats odd to me is that I have my grandmothers 67 Falcon with the 289 and it has that small type air cleaner and I know its all original.
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"when all is said and done,usually more is said than done".
It is my understanding that the small lid type was pictured in most of the early press release photos but was changed to the larger lid style at or near the start of actual production. Bob Mannell dedicated many many years (nearly 2 decades if I remember correctly) of his life researching and documenting all of the small blocks and I believe his info is more accurtate than even anything Ford has documented. Hood clearance is an issue on the Mustang with its hood being lower than the Falcon and Fairlanes hoods. As far as the Mustang restoration guide goes, try using it as your database and see where your car scores in concours judging.
Ok guys, Stop fighting about this one....Here's the story in a nutshell. Mustangs with the 260 V8 usually got the standard 17" aircleaner just like regular '65-'66 289 V8's.... It's just that some 260's, and even a few early 289's for that matter came with the Fairlane type aircleaner instead of the standard "Mustang" one. This was primarily due to part Shortages at Ford. The Mustang and Fairlane also shared the same assembly line (there are many pictures to prove this), so if a Mustang aircleaner was not available, a Fairlane aircleaner got put in its place. The assembly line never stops! Got it?
Mustang VIN #1 even has the 17" aircleaner just like most '65-'66 V8 Mustangs, and that is an all original pre-production 260 V8 engine.
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aircleaners on 64 1/2
