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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-06-2010, 06:20 PM Thread Starter
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Lead Substitute CD-2 Concentrate hard/impossible to find

For years we have been using CD-2 Super Concentrated Lead Substitute in three of our cars that don't have hard seats yet. Usually got the 16oz or 32oz bottles with the separate chamber to measure an amount for each fill up. Used to find it at Wal-Mart, Kragen, etc. but now no one seems to have it. Is that just here in commiefornia?

I know that Turtle Wax bought the company. I also know there are a few dump the whole bottle in types but that is alot more expensive and a pain to carry 10 bottles in the trunk to avoid constant trips to the store.

Is it still out there any where? Any one want to ship me some if it is just our crazy state that does not allow it?

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-07-2010, 12:19 PM
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Back in the day, we used Real Lead. They are still around. And yes, they did stop selling in CA quite a few years ago.
But you can still mail order.
Welcome to Real Lead Instead

I would also think, that with octane in the 90's, a less dilution is necessary just for lubing.

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I did a little digging awhile back regarding fuel additives to replace the lead. From what I found I wasn't too wild about the lead substitutes. That's when I discovered that true lead additives were indeed still available. Here's one that I found (and also still available!):
Kemco Oil & Chemical Inc

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I used to buy the exact stuff you are talking about from Pep Boys when I was running an original 289.

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You don't really need it. It only improves valve life maybe 10%, so the additive will cost you more than a valve job on a daily driver. If the car is an occasional use 'fun' car, the valves will likely never wear out.

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These are true daily drivers that we use it on. For example since completed in April of 2001 our daughter has logged 103,000+ miles on her 66. I'll have to check with my machine shop to see how much a hard seat valve job would be to figure the break even point. Hate to pull the heads off I good motor that still runs strong. We rebuilt the engine but only needed to lap the valves due to the heads being in good shape. My daughter even assembled the heads herself.

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jes,i just threw 2 unopened quarts of that stuff away last w/e.
it was on my shelf since the mid 80's
I never did get to using it.

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You don't really need it. It only improves valve life maybe 10%, so the additive will cost you more than a valve job on a daily driver. If the car is an occasional use 'fun' car, the valves will likely never wear out.
+1. If you're not racing or towing or otherwise working the motor hard a high percentage of the time it's not needed.

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+1. If you're not racing or towing or otherwise working the motor hard a high percentage of the time it's not needed.
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