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Old 09-21-2010, 11:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default car in storage - brakes locked - any suggestions?

My '67 vert is at my parent's house - it has not been moved in 10 years and the power disc brakes appear to be locked up - I am going to put some decent tires on the car and bring it home next month.

The MC was dry when I checked it a couple of weeks ago - should I try to (1) add some fluid and bleed the brakes, or (2) do I need to try to remove the calipers to get the car on the trailer, or.........
(3) get some auto dollies to put under the tires to move it?
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My '67 vert is at my parent's house - it has not been moved in 10 years and the power disc brakes appear to be locked up - I am going to put some decent tires on the car and bring it home next month.

The MC was dry when I checked it a couple of weeks ago - should I try to (1) add some fluid and bleed the brakes, or (2) do I need to try to remove the calipers to get the car on the trailer, or.........
(3) get some auto dollies to put under the tires to move it?
It's probably just one wheel that failed. Jack up the front and see if one of the wheels can turn but the other can't
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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all 4 of my 69 vert were locked and broke free when winching onto the roll back. You are looking at rebuild/replace wheel cylinders at minimum though before driving.
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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No fluid, probably a leak somewhere. As said, see which ones are frozen. If the emergency brake was set, probably the rears. Back off the adjusters and tap the drum and see if they'll break free. If disc front, open the bleeder screws. Also as said, may break loose when pulling it out.
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'll second the BFH on the rear drums. The lining has probably become one with the drum. Use a long pry bar between the lug nuts to put some torque on the wheel while -ahem- tapping. Entire rear should be up in the air for this.
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My first thought would be to invest in some beer or whatever it takes to bribe three decent-sized helpers. With two of you on each end of the car, push and rock back and forth and see what
Second would be taking things apart. If you can get the calipers off then you should be able to put them back on and be OK. Same with the drums. Once you get them unlocked, you're OK.
I bought a Honda once that had the parking brake set for two years. With my truck I dragged two black marks about 30 feet down somebody's nice concrete driveway. Then with a BIG bang both sides broke loose and I was able to load it on the trailer. I was later amazed to find the rear brakes survived just fine. I could have sworn I broke something.

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I'd also look at the front brakes, the original 4 piston "Kelsey Hayes" fixed calipers that are on your car. I love these brakes and I have been working with them for years. Yes the drums probably are frozen,But more than likely the calipers probably froze as well,Those brakes are great but they don't like to sit(unless you use DOT 5 fluid). That said I'd probably pull the calipers,It will make the car easier to move and there is a very slim chance they will "Free up" being left on the car.
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You said the MC is dry. Both ends? The fluid must have leaked somewhere. Keep in mind the rear MC reservoir is for the front/discs. Chances are one or both of the rear wheel cylinders leaked. The brake shoes got wet with fluid and swelled thus locking the wheel. To get it free you need to back off the adjustor.

In my experience disc (fronts) can lock up with years of sitting just from rust on the rotor. Otherwise like what was said opening the bleader should relieve the pressure.
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This is why I mounted an 8000# winch on my car trailer. Usually they break loose just loading the car. :-)
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I'm with ylexot on this one. All 4 drums on my 65 were locked up tight. Took the wheels off, put the lug nuts back on so no damage would be done to the threads, and put a long bar between the lugs. A lot of weight on the bar while someone tapped around the drums and they all broke loose. just watch for the bar to go flying when they do let go.
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If the brake shoes are swelled from brake fluid you won't turn thr drums!
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all this sounds like good experience and advice - I am going to get up under the car this next weekend and see what I can figure out.

It sounds like a good winch and a concrete driveway are the ticket - unfortunately I will have to move the car from a shed onto a gravel driveway.
I have only rebuilt drum brakes on a '65 and '66, so I am going to get out the old shop manual to see how to adjust the front disc brakes -I may also soak them with some liquid wrench a day or two before I try to move the car.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Hey,
For what it's worth,The front discs are not adjustable. Secondly if they are the original calipers (with the chrome plated vs stainless after market pistons) they aren't freeing up with a squirt of PB Blaster (best stuff in the world,but everything has it's limitations),do your self a favor pull them,it's easy two bolts hold the pads in place then 2 more bolts hold the cliper to the spindle.you can then remount the wheel and move the car freely.

As far as the back brakes, I have a trick for removing stuck drums.We're talking extreme where you know you are replacing everything anyway. I unbolt the wheel cylinder from the wheel(2 small bolts) I then sheer the heads off of the two pins that hold the shoes onto the backing plates,it then falls off,or usually it needs a little persuading with a small prybar(gently)
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