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Old 07-08-2011, 08:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My headliner looks old and stained. I dont want to replace it because I know its a pain to do. I was going to rattle can it inside the car with SEM paint from NPD.
Should I use SEM paint or something else?
Has anybody done this before?
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I was just about to tear my old headliner down when I found out that you have to remove the front and rear glass. I'm not prepared to do this at this point due to time constraints. I plan on using duplicolor's vinyl and fabric paint and I've used it before with good results. I'm switching the headliner color from white to black so I know I'll need at least three coats. First coat should be a light coat followed by a second heavier coat and then maybe a third and final coat. I plan on starting this tonight and should have it done by the weekend. Biggest problems I see are the overspray issues, fortunately my interior is completely gutted at this point which will make things easier. About the only prep I can think of would be to clean the liner first maybe with some bubbing alcohol. PM me for my phone number so I can tell you what I did and what not to do. Mark
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I've used SEM, DupliColor, and "brand x" or whatever they sell at AutoZone to touch up my headliner, carpet, etc., in the past. I wouldn't try cleaning it, though, for if it is dry rotted at all you'll end up with a tear or hole that will not be repairable.
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I was just about to tear my old headliner down when I found out that you have to remove the front and rear glass. I'm not prepared to do this at this point due to time constraints. I plan on using duplicolor's vinyl and fabric paint and I've used it before with good results. I'm switching the headliner color from white to black so I know I'll need at least three coats. First coat should be a light coat followed by a second heavier coat and then maybe a third and final coat. I plan on starting this tonight and should have it done by the weekend. Biggest problems I see are the overspray issues, fortunately my interior is completely gutted at this point which will make things easier. About the only prep I can think of would be to clean the liner first maybe with some bubbing alcohol. PM me for my phone number so I can tell you what I did and what not to do. Mark

Im also spaying black, its parchment right now. I changed all the interior over to black. Right now I have the seats and quarter trim panels out. I know I have to cover everything else with plastic and tape because of overspray. I was told by someone to use the SEM paint for the exact match of the color. Is that duplicolor a semi gloss or semi flat? Let me know how yours comes out.
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I used the Duplicolor black on my kick panels spraying it with five coats. The last coat went on really thick and the final finish is a bit glossy. I'm thinking the headliner's fabric will turn out semi-gloss though. That's true about an old headliner being rotted but I still plan on wiping (lightly) it down with alcohol. From all the other work I've done it's covered with overspray and dust. I'm sure most if not all the fabric and vinyl dyes out there are very similar. I've been told they're pretty much paint with flex agents added but I'm not a paint chemist. I'll try to let you know how it went but I may be busy trying to get her back together for the Mustang show next weekend here locally in Fort Wayne. It's been 31 years since I last owned a Mustang and I don't want to miss the show. Mark
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[ I wouldn't try cleaning it, though, for if it is dry rotted at all you'll end up with a tear or hole that will not be repairable.[/QUOTE]

Been there, done that, regret it, ruined the original - from dry rot the seam split.
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You'll have to clean it somewhat to get good adhesion. Try the Mister Clean magic eraser. i don't know what's in that thing but it'll clean up just about anything (probably some chemicals that in 20yrs will be "deadly" for human use...).
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Im off next week, I think ill give it a go and see what happens. The worse that can happen is it looks like crap and I have to put in a new one (Hopefully not).
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I did mine last spring as a refresher coat. I used NPD SEM and the vinyl prep cleaner.
Pay the extra $10.95 (part #C-CV) for this. I had a few rags turn black. after they cleared up i let it dry over night and hit it with 3 light coats of SEM about a 15 mins apart.

i came out great and so far held up.

sure beat the $600 estimate I had at a resto shop plus they wouldnt guarentte that theyd get my windows out in one peice.

Ohhh yeah head over to Lowes for a face mask. dont shoot that crap without it.
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I don't know about on a headliner, but I used the rattlecan Accumatch vinyl dye from NPD on my installed dashpad. It came out far better than I had hoped, and still looks new today.
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I did mine last spring as a refresher coat. I used NPD SEM and the vinyl prep cleaner.
Pay the extra $10.95 (part #C-CV) for this. I had a few rags turn black. after they cleared up i let it dry over night and hit it with 3 light coats of SEM about a 15 mins apart.

i came out great and so far held up.

sure beat the $600 estimate I had at a resto shop plus they wouldnt guarentte that theyd get my windows out in one peice.

Ohhh yeah head over to Lowes for a face mask. dont shoot that crap without it.
Thats what I wanted to know. I was planning on using SEM, wasnt sure if it would come out good. How many cans did you use?
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Finished! and she turned out perfect too! I ended up using Duplicolor vinyl and fabric paint two cans total. Here's how I did it: I removed the windlace, domelight, sunvisors and other hardware. I cleaned the old front and rear window gaskets with brake cleaner to bring back their look, over the years the rubber had turned a brownish color. I carefully cleaned the old headliner with rubbing alcohol being careful not to tear the fabric. Then I carefully masked off the window gaskets leaving just a thin edge exposed. By doing this the old liner (white in color) had no chance of being seen after painting (black). I applied a light coat of paint allowing it to tack and the followed with two more heavier coats. I waited until morning to unmask. Only mistake I made was not painting the A pillars first. I ended up having to mask off a small portion on the newly painted headliner and was lucky enough the paint didn't pull off. I did notice that after I installed the new sunvisors the headliner had a bit more gloss to it than the sunvisors but I can live with that. This was a much easier and less expensive option than removing the front and rear glass and installing a new headliner. Mark
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Thats what I wanted to know. I was planning on using SEM, wasnt sure if it would come out good. How many cans did you use?

one can is plenty. you dont wnat to have too much extra weight on there. a few light mist coats will be all youll need.
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Finished! and she turned out perfect too! I ended up using Duplicolor vinyl and fabric paint two cans total. Here's how I did it: I removed the windlace, domelight, sunvisors and other hardware. I cleaned the old front and rear window gaskets with brake cleaner to bring back their look, over the years the rubber had turned a brownish color. I carefully cleaned the old headliner with rubbing alcohol being careful not to tear the fabric. Then I carefully masked off the window gaskets leaving just a thin edge exposed. By doing this the old liner (white in color) had no chance of being seen after painting (black). I applied a light coat of paint allowing it to tack and the followed with two more heavier coats. I waited until morning to unmask. Only mistake I made was not painting the A pillars first. I ended up having to mask off a small portion on the newly painted headliner and was lucky enough the paint didn't pull off. I did notice that after I installed the new sunvisors the headliner had a bit more gloss to it than the sunvisors but I can live with that. This was a much easier and less expensive option than removing the front and rear glass and installing a new headliner. Mark
Sounds great! I hear you, I def not looking foward to removing glass. Im actually going to do it this afternoon. I have new black sunvisors and brackets. Im using the SEM paint, its supposedly an exact finish match to stock. Ill post some pics when its done.
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Spend the extra money on a second can. To paint overhead you must tilt the spray can and this may cause the paint to spit when the paint gets low. Switch out to a full can for the final coat. Remember you're going from a white headliner to a black one, you'll need the extra coverage. Plus once the paint has dried it doesn't weigh that much. 90% of the solvent in the paint is lost in the air when spraying otherwise the paint would run and drip. Mark
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