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Old 07-17-2011, 10:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Guys ------ I can not get the short hoses routed from the ram to the cylinder. I have tried everything!! I'm most worried about damaging the threads on the valve more than anything else. Does anyone know a source for these short hoses? Aren"t there special made ones I can buy?? --------- What a pain!! I'm just frustrated. If you have any suggestions. I'd sure appreciate it. Thanks for letting me vent. Cheers, Bill Palmer --- maybe pictures, if you have any.
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I was hoping someone would have a suggestion on how to solve connecting these small hoses. Thanks, Bill
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Can you be a little more specific about the problem? Are lines too short or ? I recently bought a pair of new Gates brand cylinder lines for about $12ea off of eBay. Havent tried to installing them yet.
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The short hoses vary in quality from very nice to no-effing-way-will-they-fit. When installed, should look like this:

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I was hoping someone would have a suggestion on how to solve connecting these small hoses. Thanks, Bill
Bill,

It is very easy to install the Edelmann/Gates hoses when you keep in mind the cylinder DOES NOT Lay straight along side the control. This is where Folks start cursing the "Bad Fitting " Hoses.

When installed, the cylinder is above the control on the rear side, so keep this in mind as you install the angles.

I promise we can install a set of these in less than 5 minutes without bending at all.

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Guys ------ I can not get the short hoses routed from the ram to the cylinder. I have tried everything!! I'm most worried about damaging the threads on the valve more than anything else. Does anyone know a source for these short hoses? Aren"t there special made ones I can buy?? --------- What a pain!! I'm just frustrated. If you have any suggestions. I'd sure appreciate it. Thanks for letting me vent. Cheers, Bill Palmer --- maybe pictures, if you have any.

If you look at OE short hoses the end formed tubing and fittings are very short/close coupled. This allows more of the total length to be flexible hose.

I've discussed this with a couple places that produce repo hoses. They say it takes special tooling to produce these close coupled fittings. When I was able to get a pair of short hoses with closer coupled fittings, more flexible hose intallation was a piece of cake!

Obviousely there's always the issue of installing them crossed!

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Detach the cylinder, install the hoses and reinstall.
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The short hoses vary in quality from very nice to no-effing-way-will-they-fit. When installed, should look like this:

That is a 65 66 Picture which has very different routing than the 67-70.

The clocking of the control to the Cylinder is Different, you can not use this picture as a example for the 67-70, and the clamp to secure the tubing to centerlink is missing.

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I want to thank everyone for their help. Is there a picture available showing the mounting on a '67 coupe? John: you suggest removing the cylinder and remounting the cyl. after the hoses are "fixed". Have you done it that way? ----- or is this a suggestion??

I'm really having a 'devil' of a time accomplishing this feat. Cheers, Bill Palmer
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That is a 65 66 Picture which has very different routing than the 67-70.

The clocking of the control to the Cylinder is Different, you can not use this picture as a example for the 67-70, and the clamp to secure the tubing to centerlink is missing.

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I did my 69 recently and what a PIA. I started one side and gave it a few rounds BUT DID NOT TIGHTEN it. Then I started the other side of the same hose (now once the first side is started it really makes it hard to thread) Be aware one is at a funny angle- I always turn it backwards (lefty loosey) SLOWLY and feel for the thread to "drop" in- then stop and resume tightening (righty tighty) so I don't cross thread. As with any mustang repair you may need to stop a few times and wipe sweat, curse, and my car always requires a small blood donation. Seriously it just requires the right angle and the other hand to wiggle the hose around.
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As Chock said and my personal experience confirms the quality (say resemblance to original design) makes this job vary from no way to (my words) piece of cake!

OK I exaggerated a little. The cake may be like stale Christmas season fruitcake!!
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Good point.

OH hell Ya, done stole that Picture--

Note the routing, They are Twisted, Have to be, Not perfectly paralllel.

Those trying to fit, Use the bends in the Tubing, That is what they are there for

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Thanks GT!!
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OH hell Ya, done stole that Picture--

Note the routing, They are Twisted, Have to be, Not perfectly paralllel.

Those trying to fit, Use the bends in the Tubing, That is what they are there for

Dan @ Chockostang

Thanks GT!!

Note the rubber/hose part is long, the fittings are close coupled.
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