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Old 07-20-2011, 10:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i've found a near mint floor console 65 fastback, but it's black.....i need it blue
what do i need to do to prepare the plastic for painting? what type of paint to use/ stay away from?
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You should get a plastic paint prep / cleaner, it will Get it ready for the paint or dye. You should finmd what you need in NPD or Cj pony spartss etc. even eastwoods
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I've heard that Easy Off oven cleaner will take the paint off and leave the surface ready for repainting.
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Heavy Duty Easy Off will remove the black paint. I used paint (not dye) from NPD.
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Once you have your console stripped, I have a nice how-to PDF on prepping and repainting your console that I used when I restored the one in my 65 convertible. It's too big to attach to this thread, but if you PM me an e-mail address, I'll send it to you. Stripping wasn't an issue for me, as I was repainting a black console with black paint. I suggest calling a customer friendly place like VA Classic Mustangs and ask for advice on the best stripper/paint to use. I used a black laquer in a rattle can and mine turned out fine. I can give you the specifics on the paint I used this evening, if you like. If I had to do it over again though, I would seriously consider dying the console as opposed to painting. It chips pretty easily and I'm always touching it up.

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Like the others above, I have used paint on the hard plastic of consoles, not dye. A small clarification on the oven cleaner suggestions above (if you are stripping old paint) - use the cheap store brands, not easy off. In particular, you are looking for the "old school" formulations where the active ingredient is lye. Lye is nasty stuff; use proper care and do not get it on your skin or in your eyes.

Probably the best advise I have for you is to use a really good dewaxer/degreaser. These consoles got a lot of amour-all and other products applied to them over the years, and oils/wax/silicone will cause all sorts of problems when painting. I use PPG DX330 on everything I paint.

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Wait a minute. My original white console was white plastic. My original red console was red plastic and the blue one was blue. Obviously if someone had painted them a different color, then you need to strip the paint down to the original color.

All of mine need to be "refreshed" as time as taken a toll on the brightness of the original color. They had never been painted. I first washed and scrubbed them with TSP or some equal detergent. Then I cleaned them with alcohol. I used "vinyl dye" as it has a flexing agent in it so it will work on upholstery etc. After 12 years, they still look new and do not seem to chip or scratch easily.
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Call tech support at SEM
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I just finished painting my console using their prep system and paint. It came out looking better that I could have imagined.

You can buy the products on line or from your local Car Quest.
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I wouldn't go spraying oven cleaner on 30 year old plastic. Plastic degrades enough without being subjected to the harshest chemicals you can find.

I'd wash it with a good soap like Dawn then wipe it down with a wax and grease remover. You can use alcohol for this step. The correct next step would be to use a plastic paint prep. A lot of paints don't want to bind with plastic very well. Most paint supply stores will have a spray can that won't be expensive. Bulldog is a brand I've used in the past. Being hard plastic you could use regular paint as well as the vinyl "dyes". Never understood why they insist on calling them dyes. They are just flexible paint.
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There is a 3M alcohol based plastic prep cleaner that has worked great for me. DO NOT use oven cleaner on this old plastic. You will literally take off the graining and finish of the plastic. This plastic was not intended to last this long, and needs to be treated with extra care. I've used soft bristle tooth brushes to get down in the crevices to remove dirt and crud prior to painting. Clean it carefully and get all the armor all, and silicone based gook off and you will be fine.
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Use the 3-step SEMS products. Cleaner, prep, paint. They work - period. Even on flexible vinyl pieces. Use LOTs of VERY light coats of the color. I mean like 6 coats where you make one quick pass and let dry in between.

If it is already painted and you are concerned about damaging it then Goof-off will take off the paint without damaging the plastic. Use a toothbrush and lots of rags to wipe off the residue.
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+21 for the SEM products/method.
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My console had no less than six coats of paint on it when I picked it up at a swap meet, and three layers of contact paper over the inserts. Blecch. Apparently some PO had a hard time deciding between red and white on an originally Palomino piece. Nobody would even look at the thing. OTOH it was an undamaged convertible console for $20, so it came home with me.

A hit of Easy-Off and a bit of scrubbing took all of the paint off without softening the plastic, and the grain remains crisp and clear. I let it sit for no more than 15 minutes before thoroughly rinsing. My brother managed to melt one by letting it sit for several hours, no surprise there.

Goof-Off is good stuff, but I've destroyed more than a few plastic parts with it over the years- be careful. Removing any quantity of paint with it would be tedious work indeed.
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Use the 3-step SEMS products. Cleaner, prep, paint. They work - period. Even on flexible vinyl pieces. Use LOTs of VERY light coats of the color. I mean like 6 coats where you make one quick pass and let dry in between.

If it is already painted and you are concerned about damaging it then Goof-off will take off the paint without damaging the plastic. Use a toothbrush and lots of rags to wipe off the residue.
+1 I've done both my consoles with SEMS (and all my other soft interior parts) with outstanding results.
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question regarding the color of the console..should it be interior paint color or carpet color or seat/dash vinyl color?
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