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Old 02-02-2012, 03:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Anyone using a Maier Adjustable Panhard Bar?

Im having some body roll issues with the '67. I just ordered a new sway bar but shorty after found this:

The Mustang Shop Parts Catalog: Panhard Rods:1965-70 Maier Racing

Mustang Panhard Rods

Seems like the PHB would take care of my issue way better than a rear sway bar would...

Is anyone currently using this one? If so how do you like it? night and day differences?
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Rear sway bars and panhard bars do different things. What problem do you want to address ?
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm running one and was money well spent. The Maier PHB took the "boat feeling" away. I'm in much better control and I feel safer when I dive into the corners and my rear tires stick hard.
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The panhard bars are not for body roll, according to the Maier document.
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I took pictures here (about halfway down), basically the rear tires are getting cut up by the fender. I rolled the sharp lip up, but still dont want the rub

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If you think your issue causing your tires to be damaged is deflection in the leaf springs while cornering and having suspension compression from pot holes/dips....then using the pan hard will help.

However, the unforunately reality for you is that your tires are too large. I have looked at your photos....they are not under the fender. They appear to be 285 by trying to read the sidewall in your photos and the wheels don't have deep enough backspacing. It will be cheaper to down size the tires slightly than to install the panhard bar which will have negative affects on your exhaust fitment.
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I took pictures here (about halfway down), basically the rear tires are getting cut up by the fender. I rolled the sharp lip up, but still dont want the rub

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Your tires 265/35's are too wide and probably not enough offset either. PHB will not help that issue.
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Nick is right on target. I would suggest that you call Mike Maier and talk with him. He's a great guy and really knows suspensions. He would be able to steer you (sorry for the pun) in the right direction.
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As stated already, a PHB is not gonna help you out. Those rear tires need to be tucked in more.

I used to have under ride traction bars and no rear sway bar. When I ran 6.00x15 Goodyear Bluestreaks, I was getting enough side movement in the rear axle that it cut down the inside of a tire. Thankfully it was at the apex of a slow corner!

Removed the traction bars, installed the PHB and have had no more problems with side movement.

In the pic below, you can see how those Bluestreaks are tucked into the opening.
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Well that kind of hurts, looks like i have a few options:
1) buy narrower tires (245? 255?)
2) Shave a .25" off the backside of the rim?? (current backspacing is 4.75" Coy C-67)
3) carefully place a stick of dynamite in the fuel tank and run

But a more serious question, I have already ordered the rear sway bar. It actually shipped this morning. Would this or a PHB help at all? if yes, which would be more effective?
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I doubt a 1/4" will make a difference, looking at your pics.

Again, sway bar helps with body roll and a PHB primarily keeps the rear axle located. The rear sway bar will make the car more tail happy when pushed hard.

What is your use for this car? street, road course?? It'll make a difference in what you need to do. If it's not going to see high side loads (road course), then a PHB is not really needed. Adding a rear sway bar is a personal preference for a street car. Me, my car is pretty neutral with no rear bar, just like I like it.
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Its a weekend cruiser really, might take it to work once a week... probably around 2k miles a year...tops

The damage shown is from turning a corner... lots of turns on the way to work hahaha
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Is there a rear sway bar / panhard bar combination? Or can I install both on the car? I like what I'm reading about the benefits of both
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Most people suggest NOT using a rear sway bar, as they will probably make your car handle WORSE. Correct me if I am wrong, fellow posters, but he might just wanna ship it back!

Panhard bars WILL help handling, and make the car feel better, but won't fix your problem. It might help you run a slightly wider tire, but your tire right now is just TOOO wide, or you need a different wheel.

EDIT: Also, is that not a stock rearend?
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Your mistake is using 18x8 wheel with 265 tire you should be using a 18x9 with a 255 tire, either change to a 235 or 245 tire or buy new coys 18x9, you could probably still using the 265 tires on 18x9 with no problems.
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