It's good to know that he's still around, I've been running oil analysis on the Boss last couple oil-changes, and if the third test confirms the first two, I probably need to refresh.
That's an old page... I came to my senses, didn't do the resto-mod idea I had for my blue Mach. But it's still just been sitting, waiting for me to do "something". Too darn busy...
What I HAVE gotten accomplished is the re-restoration of my mom's old Shelby, now back and resplendent in its original Highland Green. Anyone who's subscribing to Mustang Magazine gets to see it in this coming issue, a Shelby special issue.
I'd be willing to bet Earl remembers building that particular engine. He's a quirky little old dude, but he's got a mind like a hawk when it comes to engines. Last time I was over at their dyno shop, one of Dyno Don's old Pro Stock Trucks was still sitting there.
If you ever happen by, please do me a favor and ask him about it, as I'm very thin regarding "history" on my car's original owner and the build. The invoices and paperwork for that build got separated from the car prior to my purchase.
[QUOTE=69bossnine;4213304]0-60 as a measure for muscle cars, is kinda like what a 10-yard race would be to an olympic sprinter. It's TOTALLY traction-dictated, has little to do with actual power, and can vary wildly from track to track (surface to surface).
Looking at the 0-60's is truly useless when considering powerful cars that can easily overpower the tires in the first two gears at wide-open-throttle, and hence either have to be "feathered" (partial throttle), "short-shifted", or just allowed to spin wildly... Very-much driver-dictated.
0-60 is for Hondas and Subarus, but somehow it's established itself within our culture as being the definitive measuring stick... Traction, weight transfer and rear chassis geometry plays the largest part of the dig. Lord knows how many cars have beaten me at the drag strip to 60mph, only for me to go sailing past them on the tall-end like they had pulled a parachute...
Lastly, my comments/opinions have been purely objective, it doesn't matter that I own one. If I thought it was slower stock, I'd say it, I really don't involve my ego in car-chat, and I'm a happy-happy-thumbs-up guy whether I lose or win a race.. Oh, maybe I'll curse a bit, but it's while I'm laughing at myself for getting whooped... [/QUOTE
Right on, I hear ya. Think spring so we can get our cars on the road again and enjoy the cruise season ahead
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65 GT350 clone (sold)
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91 5.0 LX Conv. (sold)
78 (yes a 78) mustang (sold)
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This is a stellar thread. I'm daydreaming about a three-way drag between a '69 428SCJ, '69 Boss Nine, and that B351. The heavens would part.
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And Thunderbolts were built by Detroit Steel Tubing (DST), and delivered to the dealerships turn-key.
I know, I'm annoying!!
Quite the contrary - I love reading your posts. Keep this info flowing!
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I don't mean to sound like a pessimist, but when people find out how into these cars I am, all the sudden they have/had one just like mine, but it was purple and had a hemi, and was a Shelby.
Congratulations... you've made both my day, and my signature with that one. Awesome.
I'll contribute to this thread's well-being by adding the Dream Car Shootout video everyone's talking about. Enjoy!
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• 1968 Mustang Fastback, TKO500, 9", Satin Black
• 2006 Mitsubishi Evolution IX
• 2002 Chrysler 300M Special SchnorrCS: when people find out how into these cars I am, all the sudden they have/had one just like mine, but it was purple and had a hemi, and was a Shelby.
Not to be flip, but you'll rarely see a BOSS 429 with more than 20-something miles. They were maintenance pigs, impractical to drive and hard to maintain. The street version wasn't even all that fast. Awesome when modified, but in stock form the 428 CJ and BOSS 351 would take it.
Ever see Dream car garage and thier known to be, or restored to absolute factory stock drag race. The Boss 429 out ran a hemi challenger, LS6 chevelle, 455 hurst olds, ram air III GTO, 390 AMX. stage I GS buick. It was the fastest muscle car of the lot.
Almost NO (non factory drag car) muscle car, ran faster than the 14s in the quarter. What you seen in magazines were mostly tuner prepped cars. Some didn't even have the correct engine (421 Sd vs 389) GTO. Hemi's were carted off and special tuned which could have meant balancing, recurving the distributor, carb work, and possibly a different cam , and about a hundred other tweaks.
I think that the boss 429 and cars like the LS6 were better suited for the street. Any car with multiple carbs was going to be a pain in the butt. I would go as far as saying that my 1970 351 4V, 4spd, 3.50 geared mustang was faster than most hemi's in actual factory condition. You don't read about the 1970 351 4V's, but they ran 14 flat or better. I personally know of two 351's that ran 13.95 both with autos.
OH Sidewinder, I think you are about to open up another can of worms with the B429 guys with that last statement.
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73 Mach 1 Q code, 4 speed
05 mustang GT (sold)
65 GT350 clone (sold)
73 Mach 1 H code (sold)
91 5.0 LX Conv. (sold)
78 (yes a 78) mustang (sold)
"In the words of Ricky Bobby" If you ain't first, your last Ha, Ha Ha
Being tested exactly as they "were" off the showroom floor tells more of a story. Back then a 15 second car was fast. A 14 second car was unreal. A 13 second car was barely streetable. Been there. Enjoy reading. Forgot to add. In1974 I bought a 69 440/6 Roadrunner with 13k miles for $650. (gas crunch, hotrods were being given away) Absolutely the fastest bone stock factory offering I had ever owned at the time. Bench seat, column shift auto, radio delete, manual drum brake, manual steering, 4:10 Dana, lift off hood Mattel Missle. Would run in the high 12's with nothing unfactory other than a set of slicks. On that note, the Mustangs biggest downfall as far as street fear was being nose heavy with no traction. A 351W 4v would kill a shaker 428 light to light. or on the backroad tar dragstrip. The track was a whole new eye opener for the 351 guy.
I have a old friend I worked with at ford and during a conversation he mentioned his dad had a 68 mustang convertable. I was Oh thats cool you will have to bring it to the shop one of these days. Well about three weeks later he shows up and I about crapped my pants. It was a 68 convert, but what he left out was the fact that it was a real shelby GT500KR convert. Some people have all the luck. The funny part of this is that his dad bought the car new and sold it in the 80's then about 9 years later he ended up buying it back for the guy who bought it so now he is sort of a 1st and 3rd owner of his shelby. The car from what I understand is some where around Roseville Ca. What is cool is they are not the type of people to go off spouting about there cool car they just call it there 68 mustang convert.
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