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Old 03-03-2012, 06:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is this too much toe in or toe out? Can I make any adjustments to resolve this or is an alignment in my future? Car is a 64.5 coupe with a 200cc, non power steering. Any feedback would be appreicated.
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Old 03-03-2012, 07:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Looks like a camber issue. An alignment from someone who actually knows how to shim and adjust the camber should fix it.
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I agree on the camber being wrong. It looks like the edges of the 2 tires are worn, which means they are tilted slightly and not sitting flat on the ground. Since the tilt is set by the camber, that is what needs to be adjsuted. Incorrect toe-in or toe-out would tend to cause the tires to scuff across their entire width, and you would probably feel it in the steering. An alignment shop is really the only way to fix it - you can't "eyeball" any of the adjustments since you are only talking fractions of a degree.
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Thanks to both of you for the feedback. Camber it is, and off to the alignment shop we go!
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I would suggest calling around and asking if they have someone who is used to working on a classic suspension. I had a shop tell me they wouldn't touch it. Also have had one that someone different set my alignment every time. So every time it was different. But I have a lifetime alignment with them, so it costs me nothing to take it in there. They first told me how off the camber was, but shiming wasn't included in the alignment cost. If I get the right couple of guys to work on it, everything is good. The wrong ones, and I have left with the front tires squealing. Went home and adjusted the toe myself.
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
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A simple check for camber, put the wheels straight ahead and set a framing square on the floor and up to the tire. Extra hands and a tape measure will check toe.

Or you can buy a caster/camber gauge and make a toe checking gauge and do the alignment yourself. It's not hard, but does take a little time.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Actually, the passenger side looks like a combination of camber and possibly a shifted belt in the tire, the driver's side looks like camber alone. Both look like a good case for new tires as I spot some cracking in the pix on the right. You probably won't find many reputable shops that will do an alignment using those tires.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Toed out...
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Toed out. I agree with John. I had the same wear on mine and it turned out the front tires were toed out 3/4". You would turn the steering wheel one turn in either direction and the steering wheel would get really easy to turn.

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