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Old 11-08-2012, 10:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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From what I understand, you can take a brake booster from a 67 and it will bolt onto a 65?
The pedal doesn't have to be changed and you can run the vacuum line from the booster to the intake port on the carburetor plate.

Is this correct?
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IIRC, someone said you can use the booster from a Geo Metro and it fits. That was a while back, so I don't know.

Didn't some of the 66s come stock with PB? Why not just order a stock PB booster?
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I will check on the 66's and see if they came as stock but I know they did on the 67 and I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it will bolt right on so this is my next project I want to do.
Speaking of projects... I would love to add power steering because having manual steering sucks but I've heard it's expensive to convert
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I will check on the 66's and see if they came as stock but I know they did on the 67 and I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it will bolt right on so this is my next project I want to do.
Speaking of projects... I would love to add power steering because having manual steering sucks but I've heard it's expensive to convert
From what I've heard, it's NOT cheap. I think the $1K ball park is what they are asking for a R&P setup.

I have manual on mine and it sucks because of the ratio. I have 2 different power Rack & Pinion sets that I'm going to try and fit on mine. I've looked at the ready made setup and I think I can dupe it with what I have.

If your talking about the OEM style power assist (hydro rams), they can be a bit of a mess. Hoses down there where rock like to hit, vibration, etc... causes leaks.

I'm not after original, my car is NOT a 'high' dollar car, simple basic classic mustang, so I don't care about going non-original.
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From what I understand, you can take a brake booster from a 67 and it will bolt onto a 65?
The pedal doesn't have to be changed and you can run the vacuum line from the booster to the intake port on the carburetor plate.

Is this correct?
No, it is wildly incorrect. Massive cutting and welding would be required.
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IIRC, someone said you can use the booster from a Geo Metro and it fits. That was a while back, so I don't know.

Didn't some of the 66s come stock with PB? Why not just order a stock PB booster?
Except for the 65-66 disc brake cars, ALL Mustangs could be ordered with power boost from day one.
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If your talking about the OEM style power assist (hydro rams), they can be a bit of a mess. Hoses down there where rock like to hit, vibration, etc... causes leaks.
99% of leaks are caused by crappy generic parts, and unskilled idiots installing them. Proper intallation does not result in a "mess", it's a clean, smooth-functioning system.
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I just removed and traded away my CSRP power disc setup off my 66 C-Code.

I can't imagine any rig that would be easier to bolt-on and get functioning. The CSRP stuff all just bolted on. It was tee'd into the intake manifold where the line came off for the C-4 transmission.

The only somewhat tricky parts were the pedal pushrod and how it works the brake light, and bleeding the system.
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I just removed and traded away my CSRP power disc setup off my 66 C-Code.
Bryan, what did you replace it with?
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99% of leaks are caused by crappy generic parts, and unskilled idiots installing them. Proper intallation does not result in a "mess", it's a clean, smooth-functioning system.
Agree. I've upgraded all oem power steering parts on my 1970. Leaked originally but that was due to how I installed it. Once I got a little guidance - new hoses with new ram and don't bolt up to pitman and ram bracket until you get a tight fittings. Works like a charm and no leaks.

I compared power rack, with borgeson, and OEM for my 66 project. Quality power rack almost double. Borgeson about same cost as OEM. I went OEM since i had good luck with 1970, no cutting, and preferred to keep original OEM parts (for simplicity sake).

If you decide to go OEM check out Chockostang bought parts from them - nicely done, good customer service, and answered all questions I had right away.

For booster check out CSRP - just bought one for my 1966 - good price!

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Except for the 65-66 disc brake cars, ALL Mustangs could be ordered with power boost from day one.
Here's the details from the '65 shop manual.
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Except for the 65-66 disc brake cars, ALL Mustangs could be ordered with power boost from day one.
That's what I thought. Shouldn't those stock parts be one of the cheapest options? I've heard about the Geo Metro or some other small car as a source of booster that fit well, but wondered why not just go OEM.
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That's what I thought. Shouldn't those stock parts be one of the cheapest options? I've heard about the Geo Metro or some other small car as a source of booster that fit well, but wondered why not just go OEM.
Most people don't want to go OEM because they want a dual-bowl master cylinder which, if trying to use '67 parts, won't fit between the firewall and the shock tower.
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That's what I thought. Shouldn't those stock parts be one of the cheapest options? I've heard about the Geo Metro or some other small car as a source of booster that fit well, but wondered why not just go OEM.
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Most people don't want to go OEM because they want a dual-bowl master cylinder which, if trying to use '67 parts, won't fit between the firewall and the shock tower.
Master Power Brakes reproduces the 64-66 power booster, and it either comes with a single or dual master. The dual master is an aftermarket item that does indeed clear the shock tower. It also clears stock clutch linkage, unlike aftermarket boosters.
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Yep, I bought the kit direct from MPB and it's great. I did have to purchase dust shields though (they didn't come with the kit). Real nice feel with this booster. John
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