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Old 11-18-2012, 10:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was going to install a Versailles rear in my 67 with all TCI set-up in the rear, is the Versailles that bad of a rear end to use? I have it ready to cut off the perches and weld on the brackets for the links, should I do something else now? Is there another rear end you can use that you do not have to cut and shorten the housing to center the third member on?
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What's right with it? So you swap this heavy assembly with hard to find parts and limited selection of interchangeable parts so you can say you have rear disc brakes! If the idea of your Stang is sorta like a latter day rat rod guess the Versailles rear is a good idea!

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What's right with it? So you swap this heavy assembly with hard to find parts and limited selection of interchangeable parts so you can say you have rear disc brakes! If the idea of your Stang is sorta like a latter day rat rod guess the Versailles rear is a good idea!

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I am just finding this out, so I am stuck with a outdated rear-end, what rear-end would you suggest?
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Most drop-ins have long been picked over, go with a 9", gonna have to narrow it though
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Part of why it's outdated is it was Versailles (and Granada/Monarch option). Didn't make a zillion Versailles, it was a rare Granada/Monarch option and these cars were definitely not sports cars!

JMO use it if you want! If when I update my 68 rear axle it'll be higher numeric ratio (like 3.25:1) and traction loc (or whatever Ford name). I have factory front disc and no need for rear disc.


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You can update the lincoln rear to use 2003/04 cobra rear disc brakes. I did it on mine fairly cheap and you can switch over to the SN95 rear brakes cables.
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I'm still blown away at how much people are asking for these set ups. I see them listed for $1000.00
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I've got a Versailles rear end in my 65. It has a 3.50 traction lock center section. It works great, except for the parking brake. I can get it adjusted so it works, but have to fool with it every six months or so. I actually think the unsprung weight it adds on the rear tires helps keep the tires planted. I wouldn't mind swapping out the Lincoln disc brakes for something else, but don't want anything that wont work with 15 inch Magnum 500 wheels.
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You can update the lincoln rear to use 2003/04 cobra rear disc brakes. I did it on mine fairly cheap and you can switch over to the SN95 rear brakes cables.
Can you walk me through this? I've heard the brackets are out there, just have not seen which one to use on the Versailles since they have a different axle and bearing set up.
I need to document this when I tackle mine.

EDIT: Don't worry, saw your other post on the subject.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:42 AM   #10 (permalink)
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You need this brackets North Racecars Brake Solutions
I'm pretty sure you need the large bearing brackets. I have 77 Versailles 9" under my 65 and mine have the large bearings. I'm either gunna buy a set of wilwoods or go with the sn95 set up.
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I have one in my 66 GT coupe:
The bads: 1) hard to find rotors, which are directional. But since I put it in about 18 years ago, I was able to find new ones.
2) it ain't much heavier that than any other 9 inch Ford rear.
3) Parking brake doesn't work too well, probably my fault.
4) not sure about how good the stock axles are breakage wise. Have yet to break one though.
Goods:
1) I've got 4 wheel disk brakes
2) only 1/2" wider than the stock rear end
3) I have no idea what brackets these other guys are talking about.
4) Takes a beating like any other Ford 9"
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You can update the lincoln rear to use 2003/04 cobra rear disc brakes. I did it on mine fairly cheap and you can switch over to the SN95 rear brakes cables.
How big are these rotors
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The brackets are caliper brackets so you can run late model mustang rear disk brakes. I also am running a Detroit locker with 31 spline strange axles.
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How big are these rotors
The Versailles rear rotor was 10.5"
The similar Lincoln of that era was 11"
No idea what the Cobra rear rotor size was for sure. Probably at least 11".
(so almost too big for the light vintage Mustang rear)

And for those suffering from the crappy Versailles parking brakes, I've written
on that topic before.....see post #5 on the link below.

Lincoln Versailles Rear Disc Upgrade!
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You don't have to use the SN95 Cobras, just use the SN95 GT brakes. Smaller rotor.
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