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Old 12-01-2012, 12:11 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I would suggest the you take the time to decide, what you really want, why you want it, and how you are going to drive the car.

There are a ton of great engine options for your car from the vintage style small blocks all the way up to the SOHC and Kasse Boss engine

Is there a particular reason why you arrived at 427cu?

Are you talking 427 FE or windsor based SBF?

The good old iron FE blocks are tougher and tougher to come by. A popular option is the stroker 390FE block 445cu

Both the 445W and 445FE are about the same price 12K +/-

The iron block FE will weigh a little more.

If you track the car a lot, you may want to stick with the small block. It is lighter dollar for dollar.

Since you are removing the shock towers, you could even consider the Coyote.

On chosing a builder. Once you have decided on an engine, then do the research on the builder.
There are lots of good ones around. You don't have to be bigger to be better.

I still get excited when I see a killer 347 stroker dressed as a plane jane 289.

The 289 based blocks have a really low piston speed, and are very durable. The more that you stroke them, the faster your piston goes, though.

I'm getting Brent to do mine. He's a serious ford guy and always easy to get in touch with. http://www.b2motorsportsllc.com/engines.html

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Old 12-01-2012, 01:24 PM   #47 (permalink)
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really good info from all of you guys so far and i appreciate that. I will give Survival a call on Monday for sure.

Now here is something to consider as cool as some of these Cammer and Boss 9 motors are can these be used on a regular basis and for extended periods of drives of 3-5 hours? they are race born engines and never were really destined for the street. I cant find a single youtube video of anyone just cruising in one of these all il find are quick drag strip videos or a video idling in the guys shop all eratic. Go to SEMA and you will see some show cars that will never see a track of street and just install these for bling. Go check out Purevisions Martini Mustang from SEMA.

Another thing i need to consider is weight. i am spending a fortune redoing my entire car to get the best handling i could for spirited driving and i plan to do vintage racing at Limerock and Watkins Glen and i might start autocrossing with the car so i need to keep the weight down over my front end as well. I honestly think for what i want with the car a modern Blown Edelbrock Coyote is the engine of choice but i really do not want to open my hood and see plastic on my classic Mustang i really like to keep things old school to a certain degree and these modular swaps are a nightmare to do i keep hearing.

Other goals are the Hot Rod Power Tour and the Great American Race. I need something bulletproof for any of this use.

oh by the way my shock towers are getting removed so il have room for just about anything.

The Boss 429, 427 SOHC, and any stroked FE are the same as any engine, if they are built properly and have a cooling system that is good they will not overheat.

I owned a Boss 429 and drove it in stop and go traffic during summer heat many times and it never ran hot.

An original bare FE 390, 427, 428 block weighs 195 pounds. The new aluminum FE blocks all weigh right around 120 pounds bare. Add aluminum heads and an aluminum intake and you will have an engine that weighs less than an iron head/iron block small block using an aluminum intake!

Survival Motorsports does many budget builds and they have at least one FE budget build featured in a magazine article. I have not priced one of their budget engines, but if you want an FE stroker crate engine as cheap as possible there is a company called Tuff Dawg Engines that will build a 445/390 for right around $6000 that will put out around 450HP.

Survival Motorsports sells every part you can think of if you want to build your own killer FE. One could save a ton of money going this route.
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:08 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I was talking Jon Kasse at the PRI show in Orlando about his new P-38 427 SB like this one he is selling.

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Old 12-01-2012, 05:20 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Lots of people running cast cranks in strokers with no problems.
Yes you are right, just like a lot of people run Comp Cam valvetrains, but I won't touch those either....if you check out the oem's...they used forge cranks...Crower which has been building them longer than Scat, although they do offer a few cast units, 90% are forged.....and there are more than enough issues with these products from multiple sources (including trusted engine builders) to simply let someone else have their luck with them.....I will stick with the ones whose names are very old, family run and have no issues........
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:16 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I've ran 4 cast scat cranks with no issues. Crower makes a good product, if you have 6 months to wait on it, and a forged crank in a stock block is simply not necessary. I know FAR more people that have never had a single issue with a Scat crank, than people who have had them fail. Actually, I dont know of any failures that were due to the product. Personal experiences far outweigh Internet stories.
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For FE Power you might want to phone
Blair Patrick.
He can make some serious power.


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