Lizard Skin Sound & Thermal Coating

[Greg'66 5.0]

Just throwing this out here in case anyone is considering using Lizard Skin on their car. I just finished up spraying it on my car and it came out fantastic! It's easy to apply, but a little messy. The hollow tin can sound is completely gone. A tap on the panels results in a dull thud instead of a hollow metal sound. I got 4 gallons of each product (Sound Control & Thermal Insulation) and used just about all of it. I sprayed 3 coats of sound control and 2 coats of thermal insulation over every interior surface (Except the visible painted surfaces) as well as insdie the doors and the entire trunk area. Total cost was about $650 for 4 gallons of each product plus the spray gun kit. I can't wait to see how well it works once the car is together. I'm impressed so far.

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[coolblue65]

I spoke with them at SEMA, they had a hot electric griddle set up with the heat coating on one side and no coating on the other and where placing ice cubes on each side at the same time....needless to say the coated side significantly reduced the amount of heat coming through to melt the ice. Pretty neat stuff.

[dzahm]

Sounds neat but DAMN..........650$ wow

[gimpystoy]

How long did it take you to spray?

[josecuervo62000]

look pretty sweet

[Greg'66 5.0]

Originally Posted by gimpystoy

How long did it take you to spray?

It took about 1.5 hours to spray one coat over the entire car. It's a little cool right now, so it takes a little longer to dry. I've been giving it 24 hours between coats, but 12 is probably enough. I just spray a coat in the evening and let it dry all day while I am at work, then repeat. Overall, it took 5 days since I shot one coat each day, but I bet I could have done 2 coats in a day if I needed to.

You definitely need a large compressor to shoot this stuff. You have to run about 50-60 psi to the gun, and it flow a lot of air. My 5HP 60 gallon compressor handled it with no problem.

[cassiarkid]

I did my 70 Mach 1 last year, what a difference!! Was worth the money.

[mymachone]

Yes , it's a little pricy but it will flow in every crevice , corner and crack . That is a whole lot better than using the sheet stuff.

[55Speed]

Hey guys can you tell me the overall dried finish of this Lizard skin product? is it hard or more like rubber? I wanted to get my entire interior and outside wheel houses done with Rhino Liner since i have used this on my trucks before and its super strong, dries in seconds. My issue is my resto shop cant find a Rhino Liner guy to come to their shop to spray and since the car will be in pieces they really dont want to risk transporting it to a install center nearby. I emailed Lizard and another company to get some product samples i havent received yet so i am in search of a DIY coating my resto shop can apply in house. Any other product suggestions? I want at least a 3/8 thick coating on my entire interior floor area for sound. As for price, yes this isnt cheap but Dynamat is crazy expensive as well and will cost way more than a spray coating.

[ScottsGT]

Hope it doesn't produce bad odors once the interior is closed up. Looks like a great product. I used the FatMat on mine and it also made a significant difference.

[Greg'66 5.0]

The finish is similar to truck bedliner, but it's not as durable. It's a hard surface - not rubberized at all. Lizard Skin is a water based product, where bed liner is a 2 part product that uses a chemical process to harden it. I read that Lizard Skin can be used in wheel wells - it would probably not have any trouble standing up to rocks kicked up by the tires. I am thinking about spraying the rest of the sound control on the underside of my fenders so that I don't get any "reverse dents" from rocks getting thrown up and hitting the fenders.

You would need a a heck of a lot of product to make a layer 3/8" thick. I am probably sitting at about 1/10" thick and that's a total of 5 layers of stuff (3 coats of sound control and 2 of thermal insulation). There is no reason to go any thicker - the car feels very solid and does not echo at all. When I tap a panel, the resulting sound is more like tapping a piece of plywood - it doesn't have much of a metallic sound to it.

3/8" of Lizard Skin would be over a thousand dollars and I doubt you would gain any extra sound proofing. I took me nearly 4 gallons to get 1/10". At about $75/gallon, you would be looking at about $1200 if you tried to build up a layer that thick. It's probably a bit thicker where I have the thermal insulation applied - it's a lighter product and builds more than the sound control.

It is a bit pricey, but I don't think it really costs all that much more than it would to install Dynamat. There's also a lot of time and labor involved with installing Dynamat. Even though my labor is free, I still would not want to spend that much time cutting and trimming sheets of rubber which still don't cover as well as Lizard Skin does. My total time invested with spraying was about 12 hours. Throw in another 3 hours to mask and unmask the surrounding surfaces and it's a relatively small amount of time.

[Greg'66 5.0]

Originally Posted by ScottsGT

Hope it doesn't produce bad odors once the interior is closed up. Looks like a great product. I used the FatMat on mine and it also made a significant difference.

It is water based and smells like latex paint when it is sprayed - you don't need a respirator to spray it. They just recommend a dust mask so that you aren't blowing black crap out of your nose when you are done. The next morning after spraying, I could barely smell it. My bet is that it will be completely odorless - it's designed to be used in interiors, so I'm sure they took that into account when they came up with the formula.

[ScottsGT]

Glad I didn't know about this product a few months back. I'd have less money in my pocket now!

[Greg'66 5.0]

Originally Posted by ScottsGT

Glad I didn't know about this product a few months back. I'd have less money in my pocket now!

Yeah that's what I get for watching Powerblock on Spike. I saw it on one of the shows and thought "Hmm, I bet that would work great in the '66". As it turns out, it worked great!

[rusty428cj]

Originally Posted by 55Speed

Hey guys can you tell me the overall dried finish of this Lizard skin product? is it hard or more like rubber? I wanted to get my entire interior and outside wheel houses done with Rhino Liner since i have used this on my trucks before and its super strong, dries in seconds. My issue is my resto shop cant find a Rhino Liner guy to come to their shop to spray and since the car will be in pieces they really dont want to risk transporting it to a install center nearby. I emailed Lizard and another company to get some product samples i havent received yet so i am in search of a DIY coating my resto shop can apply in house. Any other product suggestions? I want at least a 3/8 thick coating on my entire interior floor area for sound. As for price, yes this isnt cheap but Dynamat is crazy expensive as well and will cost way more than a spray coating.

The resto shop can buy a gun from SPI for about $40.00 and spray SPI bedliner there at the shop like I do and not send it out. Home