Tonights episode of Fast 'n Loud features a 68 Shelby GT 350

[rickgto]

"That show is so fake and full of BS. They should call it Fast-n-Butchered!"

You guys that like the show (I'm guessing) also watch WWE Raw, Survivor, etc. and find it believable? No offense meant and certainly not looking to start a war here but c'mon. I'ts nothing more than entertainment. And not real well researched by the script writers I might add. I've only seen it a few times and can pick each episode apart in bloopers that a real shop, or real mechanic for that matter, wouldn't allow if their rep is on the line. 1 example, of many, is the pan knock they fixed last night. I'm still wondering how they removed, hammered, and reinstalled a BBC oil pan on an inline 6? It's all about the tv ratings......Clutch Cargo was more believable...

[Stevea]

Originally Posted by rickgto

"That show is so fake and full of BS. They should call it Fast-n-Butchered!"

You guys that like the show (I'm guessing) also watch WWE Raw, Survivor, etc. and find it believable? No offense meant and certainly not looking to start a war here but c'mon. I'ts nothing more than entertainment. And not real well researched by the script writers I might add. I've only seen it a few times and can pick each episode apart in bloopers that a real shop, or real mechanic for that matter, wouldn't allow if their rep is on the line. 1 example, of many, is the pan knock they fixed last night. I'm still wondering how they removed, hammered, and reinstalled a BBC oil pan on an inline 6? It's all about the tv ratings......Clutch Cargo was more believable...

And proves my point.

[pdc67stang]

Now that we've found some common ground on flipping cars, I'll toss in what I think is the bottom of the barrel. Anyone watched Texas Car Wars. This is one I watch(just for the things not to do). They all talk trash like they are going to bid someone else up, and then the car sells for $600. Big money there. Then they get it to their shop and if the engine runs, wash it, paint it, sell it(lipstick on a pig). Again, I have not inspected any of the cars sold on this show, but from what I've seen, I wouldn't want to buy any of them, even as a project car.

It would be nice if there was actually a show where they had an issue with a car(overheating, vibration, etc.), showed the steps to diagnose the problem, and then show how to fix it. Viewers could send in their problems, and perhaps the shop fixes that car. I think something like this would be a bigger help than any flipping shows.(funny as they are)

[Stevea]

I also think how to shows would be great, but that's not what brings in people. The handful of people who would watch them is very small compared to the larger audience that watch shows like this one.

On the oil pan thing, they probably just grounded the shield some or tapped it down. Nothing wrong with that.

[Renato]

It looked way cooler with the old school '70s mag wheels on it.

[rickgto]

"And proves my point."

I'm on your side, believe me.

"On the oil pan thing, they probably just grounded the shield some or tapped it down. Nothing wrong with that."

Now you're making me rethink being on your side.... The pan they showed "fixing" was a big block Chev V8 pan. Not a 235 or 261 inline 6 pan....So .....

[Stevea]

Originally Posted by rickgto

"And proves my point."

I'm on your side, believe me.

"On the oil pan thing, they probably just grounded the shield some or tapped it down. Nothing wrong with that."

Now you're making me rethink being on your side.... The pan they showed "fixing" was a big block Chev V8 pan. Not a 235 or 261 inline 6 pan....So .....

LOL I never said I was a mechanic I can paint you something and make it look nice, but I don't have an eye for mechanical stuff at all!

[aolshove]

Originally Posted by Stevea

I have never personally seen any of the cars done on that show or any other, so it does not give me the right to criticize their work. Now at a show I see lots of nice cars with issues, but I just tell them nice car and move on.

Whaaaaat!? Of course you have the right to criticize! They put their projects and dealings on the air for the purpose of making money (other than just flipping cars). They get paid well to soak up criticism and get their 15 minutes of fame to boot. I don't shed tears for the hardships of celebrity.

I find I don't like more of their cars than I do like because of their bizarre tastes and putting that monkey logo on everything. Don't get me wrong though, I watch it because it IS entertaining. Love that upholstery lady, she's awesome. I also respect Aaron's work from what I've seen on the show but their cars are generally not aesthetically pleasing to me.

[Stevea]

Originally Posted by aolshove

Love that upholstery lady, she's awesome.

I think anyone who sees the show agrees with this

[rickgto]

I think the jist of this show got lost somewhere. They don't buy them, they don't build them, and they don't flip them. They're a stage for you to watch. I'd be willing to bet most all the cars seen on that show are either borrowed (for a fee) or a conglomeration of a throw together that several shops get paid to get done for a filming deadline. Actually the most believable part for me is when they have 2 days to build a car/truck to bring to auction and are starting with a frame that hasn't even been painted yet. 2 days? Really? 10 professionals together in the same room couldn't do a frame up in 2 days if the parts were numbered like a connect the dots puzzle much less those bozo's. I gotta quit reading this thread before I lose all faith in what's left of rational thinking vs television induced fantasy ...Scotty..prepare to beam 1.

[dnh4976]

It's hard for me to believe that anyone thinks the show is real. However, this debate still seems to be happening.

[69bossnine]

Show me a 2-day paint job, and I'll show you a ticking time-bomb that may not last it's first year... But it lasts long enough to "flip". That's my point.

Just because someone goes through the motions, doesn't mean it's going to last.

Then again, how can I complain, most of my business these days is people spending money fixing poorly-done cars.

I go to auctions anymore, and see father/son teams and young people excitedly bidding on what I've already sniffed-out as a rolling-disaster that's a complete "start-over-again", and all I can do is watch and bite my lip. Hundreds and hundreds of such cars roll through...

The TV shows generate enthusiasm and interest in the hobby, but then people often get burned by opportunists on their first dive into the hobby. It's been kind of a double-edged sword.

[Klutch]

Originally Posted by 69bossnine

I go to auctions anymore, and see father/son teams and young people excitedly bidding on what I've already sniffed-out as a rolling-disaster that's a complete "start-over-again", and all I can do is watch and bite my lip. Hundreds and hundreds of such cars roll through...

That is a big bummer. Those poor souls are crushed when they take the car to a shop and learn the best way ahead would be to play "Taps" and walk away. My project car had a lof of rust. But I was aware of almost all of it ahead of time. I can't imagine how I would have felt had I not known about it until I stripped the car down or took it to a shop.

And there really is no end to the false presentations on "reality" shows. I first learned of this when that HGTV show "House Hunters" premiered. Mrs. Klutch used to watch that show all the time. I was talking with someone on another forum who had worked on the show. He revealed that in every case, the couple looking for a house already bought the house. The producers just find two other houses for them to walk through and comment on. Then they create a phony setup making it look like they're trying to decide and placing a bid.

It's seems naive now, but before hearing that, I just assumed the couples on House Hunters really were shopping for a house.

Also, one of my wife's coworkers was featured in an episode of "Wife Swap". (In her case, they switched men.) She said the way it was presented on the final TV show was nothing like things had actually played out. I know, "Imagine that".

[pdc67stang]

To everyone who has turned this into a "talk crap about every reality tv show out there", it was never meant to go that way. All I wanted is for people to see a "garage find" Shelby GT350, and perhaps comment about the car. This is a Mustang forum after all. I wish I could delete this post. Then all the tv haters can start their own forum, and say whatever they want. It seems that the people who are saying things sure are watching them alot... Take them all for what they are, entertainment. Lets get back to talking about cars.

[Klutch]

Originally Posted by pdc67stang

To everyone who has turned this into a "talk crap about every reality tv show out there", it was never meant to go that way. All I wanted is for people to see a "garage find" Shelby GT350, and perhaps comment about the car. This is a Mustang forum after all. I wish I could delete this post. Then all the tv haters can start their own forum, and say whatever they want. It seems that the people who are saying things sure are watching them alot... Take them all for what they are, entertainment. Lets get back to talking about cars.

Well, there's just not much to say about a particular episode of Fast and Loud. Topics drift. It's been happening with conversations since the beginning of spoken language. Sorry you took offense. I do think it's relevant to point out that if there's something you see and don't like on a reality show, it's probably not real anyway.

I'm not a TV hater. But I guess I am a TV critic. I do like "Chasing Classic Cars" and "Legendary Motorcar". I'm sure some people would bash those shows. But I wouldn't take offense if they did.