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Old 01-07-2013, 10:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Need some help from you firsthand rotissiere guys.

Where/how did you attach it to the front/back of car.
How tall from the ground is the "pivot point", by this I mean the centerline of the round tube that you rotate to spin the shell.

After you built yours, what would you have, or did you change to make it better?

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Old 01-07-2013, 10:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I attached the front to the bumper bracket mount holes on the outsides of the front frame rails. At the rear, I attached to the rear bumper mounting holes in the taillight panel. Another common rear attachment point is to use the leaf spring holes or the exhaust hanger holes in the rear frame rail. My rotating points were about 6" below the fuel filler and just slightly above the radiator crossmember and that seemed to hit the center of gravity pretty good.

My pivot point was probably around 42-48" from the ground, which put the doors about a foot off the ground when I rotated the body 90 degrees. To make sure you won't hit the body against the ground, measure the body at its widest point, divide by 2, and add at least a foot to that and that's a good place to start for a pivot point - keep in mind that this point needs to be measured above any rotisserie structure (i.e. square tubing) that connects the front to the rear.

My rotisserie contraption was the only one I have seen that was made from pressure treated lumber instead of steel. It was fairly inexpensive and worked great. In an ideal world, I would have had one made from steel with long ram hydraulic jacks front & rear to allow the height to be changed. A powered rotating assembly would be nice, but isn't necessary if your rotating axis goes through the body's center of gravity. I would have also liked to have the ability to lock the body at various points in the rotation, but I managed just fine without. I used ratchet straps or slid a piece of wood under the body against the bottom of the frame rails to keep the body from turning.
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Got any pics of it, kinda want to have a pic to go with your description

Not very imaginative
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This was my home made rotisserie. I had to make it where it could roll over in my low ceiling with a door opener above it. It cleared the opener and the bottom rail by a couple inches.
You can see my front mount, but the rear was just a straight bar that bolted to the rear bumper bracket holes.

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The rear rotissiere attachment just bolted into the rear bumper holes.

Next, after attaching the front rotissiere to the front frame rails, you add height to the vertical section in the front until the front/back pivot points are the same, correct?

At this point the shell is balanced, but not yet tall enough to actually spin, until you raise easch side the same amount to clear the rotissiere?

I understand that the pivot point front and rear is actually determined and adjusted before anything is mounted, but I just wanna be sure that I fully understand the basic logic of finding the center of gravity for free spinning.


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This was my home made rotisserie. I had to make it where it could roll over in my low ceiling with a door opener above it. It cleared the opener and the bottom rail by a couple inches.
You can see my front mount, but the rear was just a straight bar that bolted to the rear bumper bracket holes.

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It would help to know what type rotisseri you have. Raising the car to the pivot point does not balance the car. That is done by adjusting the bracket attachment that slides in the main base. After adjusting the bracket it may be necessary to readjust the main pivot point

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I don't remember what my pivot point ht was but after I tied the two ends together with tubing I had to raise my pivot point. My pivot points on both ends are the same but the adjustment on the brackets are different from end to end. Notice the square tubing through the head on the rear is sticking through farther than the on on the front. This is where the balancing is done.
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Has anybody ever tried making one out of 3" black/galvanized pipe ?,one of my freinds owns a plumbing company and said just give him the size of pipe and lengths and he can get it for me,after I am done with it they would just reuse it since they cut and rethread it any way,if so what pipe woukd be used,thanks,Pete
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Got any pics of it, kinda want to have a pic to go with your description

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When I was done with rotating the body, I took it off the rotisserie and set it down on the base so I could easily move the car any direction:
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Greg that is really cool. Very resourceful!
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Making one similar to Scott GT's two engine stands



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It would help to know what type rotisseri you have. Raising the car to the pivot point does not balance the car. That is done by adjusting the bracket attachment that slides in the main base. After adjusting the bracket it may be necessary to readjust the main pivot point

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Had I only known,....

Besides I'm already buying enough of your rusted, almost 50 year old, beat up, second hand, used crapola!


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If you PM me your email addy, i'll send you a couple plans i found around this here parts.
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My pivot points on both ends are the same but the adjustment on the brackets are different from end to end. Notice the square tubing through the head on the rear is sticking through farther than the on on the front. This is where the balancing is done.
So after attaching either the front or the back, the other end just needs to be adjusted up or down to find the sweet spot,...

Can you put a level on the roof and adjust from that?
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