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I'm afraid he's right. Unless you have your heart set on fixing a Dagenham,
the T-5 upgrade is the way to go. I've been in the parts business my entire
working life and could probably find Dagenham parts but it's like an act of
congress to do......
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thanks guys. i have heard and read lots of bad,and very little good about these trannies.i may be foolish and regret it later but i would realy like to keep this car all origional as it came from the factory,if anyone knows where to get daganham 4 speed parts,please let me know.
My 2.77 3-sp was nowhere near as cool as a Dagenham, but I was resolved to keep it stock when I blew it up years ago. Despite warnings about its fragility, I rebuilt the 2.77. Then I blew it up again (this was when the engine, etc., was stock, and I certainly didn't abuse it). T-5s were new and expensive then, so I eventually ended up with a toploader. By all accounts the Dagenham is even more fragile. If the car isn't driven much, you may be OK, but...
You may know this, but you can put a repro shift lever, etc., on a T-5, so all will look stock unless you climb under the car.
I'd put in a 5 speed and keep the Dagenham so that if you sell the car you will still have it. There are no permanent modifications needed to install the T5.
My 2.77 3-sp was nowhere near as cool as a Dagenham, but I was resolved to keep it stock when I blew it up years ago. Despite warnings about its fragility, I rebuilt the 2.77. Then I blew it up again (this was when the engine, etc., was stock, and I certainly didn't abuse it). T-5s were new and expensive then, so I eventually ended up with a toploader. By all accounts the Dagenham is even more fragile. If the car isn't driven much, you may be OK, but...
You may know this, but you can put a repro shift lever, etc., on a T-5, so all will look stock unless you climb under the car.
Strange, My first Mustang was a Sprint with a 2.77, which I rebuilt, then I towed a boat all over the east coast with it. No problems.
I agree the T5 would be an excellent alternative to either the 2.77 or the Dagenham. The Dagenham is stronger than the 2.77, but of course that isn't saying much. The T5 will stand up to a 5.0, so trans worries would be a thing of the past.
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thanks guys. i have heard and read lots of bad,and very little good about these trannies.i may be foolish and regret it later but i would realy like to keep this car all origional as it came from the factory,if anyone knows where to get daganham 4 speed parts,please let me know.
"Parts" is a big category. What exactly do you need? If you don't know, you'll
need to find out. Dagenham parts aren't exactly growing on trees......
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You shouldn't have any problem finding bearings but anything else may be a problem. They installed them from '62-66 in Mustangs, Falcons and Econolines (with a column linkage!). Don't know if the tranny made it into any British or Australian models although it was manufactured in England.
Don't know if the tranny made it into any British or Australian models although it was manufactured in England.
I thought this transmission was used in the (I think) Cortina? Perhaps some of our British buddies can help him out.
John
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66 2+2 C Code Auto. 52K miles.
Something quite different coming eventually.
now sandblasted and DP40'd since this pic was taken.
a two legged hole shot, even with a munged up carb and snow tires...
I had a Dagenham to replace a 2.77 I blew up in 1969 or so. A friend had a complete engine and trans with shifter out of a Falcon that I got for $100. It fit pretty good in the Mustang, but I had to cut out some of the tunnel since it sat farther forward, and learned to shift "underhand" as the shift knob went all the way to the dash, and overhand meant your smashed your fingers going into 3rd.
I drove that car for about 12 years or so, put a ton of miles on it, raced in NHRA stock (200 cu class) and, modified, the car ran, best time, 13.87, at ?? around 103 or so MPH (too long ago, and I was concentrating on the bracket time). At that time, NOBODY raced a 6 cylinder, so the competition was not high. That was a 200, head had intake shaved off, running an Offy 3 single carb set up, with headers. The 13.87 would also beat a STOCK Boss 302 out of the box, as long as the driver was not REALLY sharp.
Never had any trouble with the trans, and when the car was totalled in 1981, sold the trans, bell, shifter, etc for some pretty good $$$. Don't remember how much, but I do remember it was far more than I thought my whole car was worth prior to the accident. That was the time that the Dagenham was a HOT NUMBER.
Didn't find a main cluster currently available but the last one
listed sold for $600.
There was a listing on Ebay awhile back where all the internal
gears, synchros, main shaft, etc in NOS condition went for $385.
sdreguy (is the guy's Ebay id) he seems to have other Dagenham
parts and might be able to come up with what you need.
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