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Old 02-23-2013, 05:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have located a GT390 4spd fastback and have some questions

The car has a marti report and it shows GT. also has clean vin on the inner fender.

Car has disk brakes.

Could a GT390 be ordered with hub caps? Maybe I've seen too many "restored cars" to realize they could be ordered any old way. The car has the alloy trim on the rear but nothing on the arches. Has the trim below the doors on the rockers but no turn signal hood.

Car is an original owner car and looks quite solid.

Interior has had new seat covers but they are cream with a darker brown center with some sort of embossing? They are not comfort weave as far as I can tell

Car does not appear messed with. Has the spare, jack and even the caps on the rear taillight bolts.

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Old 02-23-2013, 05:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sorry. I have not seen the marti yet so I don't know how it was ordered. That would really answer all my questions.

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Old 02-23-2013, 06:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What year? 67 and 68 used the 390GT (S code) engine, it does not mean the car is a GT. If the Marti calls out a GT then that option was added to the order.

The 69 S code was the 390IP engine, and could also be a GT, but it was a somewhat low numbers option as the 428 and Mach 1 option were available and far more common then the GT.

On the hubcaps. I think would depend on year. For the style on the GT, I think the 67 got none, styled steel wheels, 68's got smaller center only on styled steel wheels, and not sure about 69's.

Turn signal hood was an option in '67, standard in early '68 and then optional again in late '68.

Disc brakes were part of '67 GT package, separate option in '68, back in in '69. Go figure.

Wheel arch trim was not part of the GT package in any year.

Order the Marti, it shuld celar up a few things. Post results. Sounds like a nice find!
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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From what I understood the 390GT had to do withthe engine and was avilable from 68 to 69. Dont remember any special graphics unless like my 69 was a Mach I with the 390 GT motor.
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sorry. It's a 67 390 GT.

I am told the Marti reports GT

I have a number of photos. Looks like a quite original old car.

California emissions from what I can tell. Console, tach dash, no clock, not delux interior, disk brakes. Clear vin.

Thanks folks. Peter
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The car has a marti report and it shows GT. also has clean VIN on the inner fender.

Car has disk brakes.
Naturally. It's a GT.

Could a GT390 be ordered with hub caps?
The vast, huge, wide, overwhelming majority of 67's had wheelcovers. Styled wheels were very very very very rare. What you see a shows is a) Lotsa repro wheels b) Original wheels live forever even when the car is totalled. Your looking a most of the wheels that ever were, on 1/10 as many cars as there once were.

Maybe I've seen too many "restored cars" to realize they could be ordered any old way. The car has the alloy trim on the rear but nothing on the arches.
All 67-68 fastbacks had the trunk lid moulding, even no-option 6 cylinder cars.

Has the trim below the doors on the rockers but no turn signal hood.
The rocker panel moulding was a common option. The turn signal hood, not so common. Part of the exterior trim option, as I recall.

Car is an original owner car and looks quite solid.
Unusual in a GT. Most of these were owned by teenagers at some point in the 70's and 80's.

Interior has had new seat covers but they are cream with a darker brown center with some sort of embossing? They are not comfort weave as far as I can tell
Sounds non-stock, or badly weathered. Comfortweave came only black or parchment in 67. The center panels were woven vinyl. You could tell, even if you've never seen it.

Car does not appear messed with. Has the spare, jack and even the caps on the rear taillight bolts.
Nice to find an unmolested GT.

California emissions from what I can tell.
That would mean it has a Thermactor (smog) pump.

Console
Optional, on any Mustang

tach dash
Optional, on any V8. Many GT's did not have it.

no clock
Impossible. The tach option included the clock. Someone removed it.

no deluxe interior
Pretty rare, even on the GT.

disk brakes
Part of the GT.
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You are one wealth of info 22. Same with the Shelby GT500KTs. Everyone thinks they came with ten spokes while few did.

I have the Marti but can't copy and paste. Options

Closed crankcase exhaust

GT equipment group

Exhaust emission group

Four speed

Limited slip

f17-40 wide oval tyres

Wide sidewall nylon tyres

Console

Delux steering wheel

Sport deck rear seat

A! Radio

Tinted glass.

Delux seat belts

Heavy duty battery.

In the top

390 4v

Delux parchment knitted std seats

Dark moss green

3:25 limited slip

Any guess as to value. It's a fairly tired driver. Engine bay dirty, interior a 7. Paint a 6-7. Body looks darn good. No visible rust

It's located very far south but not California so a lot of money for ground transport to get it either to a port to ship here or to Pa to store at my dads.
Cheers. Peter
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Previous Ponies:
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He said the car was part of a program for servicemen where they could special order a car from Ford with special pricing

The seats were said to be recovered about 5 years ago so I would say non standard.

Rest of interior dead stock except newer stereo (original in the trunk) and a godawful grant steering wheel (original with cracked wood rim (plastic) supplied

Only areas of concern for me so far are the drivers fender to door joint looks a tad wonky but from original cars that have been shown possibly not out from production standards. Lower rear drivers quarter, told there is no patch panel but in one shot it appears the exterior has a different color below the lower rear quarter sewage line nap out 8-10 inches above base. Interior shots or rear quarters don't look bad.
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Previous Ponies:
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1965 Fastback Restomod, GT350 replica, 5.0, SSBC 4WDB, Functional side brake cooling scoops, Fuel cell, WC 5 spd, 9 inch, 355s, Vintage air, Borgenson PS, Tri Ys, side exit exhaust. GT350 hood. GT 350 Dash Pod

Previous Ponies:
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2007 GT500 sold
1990 SSP Missouri state trooper 5.0 coupe

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1966 Shelby GT350. Day two mods. 65 GT350 wheels and side exhaust. Also a new T5 to row the gears.
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1990 SSP Missouri state trooper 5.0 coupe

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Well worth buying. Too bad the deluxe steering wheel is gone, but a decent repro is available. Real comfortweave is no longer made, and hard to find. The imitation doesn't look half bad, though.

One thing about the 67. 390 cars had 14x6" wheels. The styled steel wheels were 14x5.5", amounting to a downgrade in performance.

Where in PA?
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So how much are we talking here?
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He has the steering wheel. It just has the cracked plastic wood grain that many suffer from

I know that can be restored

My dad lives in Lancaster. The car is about as far away from there as you can get

We have only lightly talked about price. Don't want to jinx it

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1965 Fastback Restomod, GT350 replica, 5.0, SSBC 4WDB, Functional side brake cooling scoops, Fuel cell, WC 5 spd, 9 inch, 355s, Vintage air, Borgenson PS, Tri Ys, side exit exhaust. GT350 hood. GT 350 Dash Pod

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I have the Marti Elite report for my '67 390GT 4spd vert. It states it to be a GT, the build tag has PIO on it which stands for Performance Image Option = GT. Order with F70-14. Since no other mention of wheels, I believe mine woulda had standard hub caps. As far as the tach, What I read in a magazine long time ago on story done on GT's was ONLY the 390 4 spd got the factory tach as standard. For all other combo's, would have been an option. I thought the simulated wood steering wheel was a stand alone option, maybe was included in a GT, I'm not sure on that. One note the "G &T" look a little close together, maybe pic not close enought for me to tell. Should be 1/2' between letters. I still have my orig rusty fender I used as ref when redoing my car. I see deluxe see belts but standard interior, not sure why.
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