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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 02-24-2013, 09:55 PM Thread Starter
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1970 Mach 1 grille

Hello everyone. I'm new to the forum.

I've searched the net and this forum 6 ways from Sunday looking for an answer to question I've had for a long time. Everybody says 70 mach 1s do not have emblems AND sport lamps . NPD says no such grille was ever produced. But the grille that was in my car has both. It isn't a homemade grille, I can tell nobody made this grille themselves. So what gives? Anybody else ever seen such a grille?

I replaced it during the resto with a sport lamp only grille because the old one was pretty tired, but I still have it and I've always been curious about it.
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Post a pic - never seen one with both.
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I realize these aren't the best pics, they were taken in 92 when I acquired the car. I won't be back in the vicinity of the car until Sat .



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Post a pic of the grill around the emblem and maybe the backside of the grill around the emblem. Does it have a plastic mounting pad for the emblem that was molded with the grille?

I've never ever seen one of those before!

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Like I said it will be this weekend before I'm near the grille to take another pic , but yes it has the mounting pad for the pony molded in the grille and the sport lamp holes molded as well. It looks like it came that way, ie nothing looks glued .
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Cool. My guess is either you had a early concept grill that wasn't supposed to make it on a car, or someone took a non-mach grill, and cut & glued the emblem section onto mach grill. Since its plastic one could cut the emblem mount section and some of the grill fins flush with the vertical grill support bars, and glue it into the mach grill with the same section of the grill removed. Quality craftsmanship would make it so you couldn't easily tell its been modified.

These grills were made from the supplier in a die, so its not like it was a factory mistake.

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I've never thought it was a mistake, I've thought maybe it was an early production or maybe a car/grille that was sold overseas. I'm familiar with plastic injection dies, my dad was a tool and die welder for 40 years. If somebody cut and glued the pony in they did a flawless job, but from close inspection I'm almost certain it was made this way. But it's funny that no one else has ever seen one. Maybe I'm wrong, I dunno. This weekend ill pull the old grille off the shelf and take some good pictures of it.
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Question is what month your mach was made. If not in first month unlikely that it is a mach1 part. And I really doubt it is a stock mach1 part. There are aftermarket that has those and I bet someone added the mustang to it.

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look at the bottom of this page - last one
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Sept '69?
I can't decode the entire plate. It's the only plate I found during the resto...



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It says original ford tooling
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look at the bottom of this page - last one
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The pic is small but I don't see a mounting pad for the emblem. Just a random emblem slapped in there for the picture.

Where did you find the pic of the yellow car? Guess I'm gonna have to do some more digging.

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Found a pic of an overseas car. This is really interesting. I wonder if this happens to be an overseas thing, and people bought a few grilles and brought them over to the states? Note that the two pics below appear to use different running horse emblems (border around the emblem in the 2nd pic), which I think is a 69 emblem in the first pic and a 70 emblem in the 2nd. No upclose pics to verify there is actually a mounting pad for these. It looks like there is a metal/shiny backing plate behind the emblem on the first pic.



Edit: and another!

Some artwork:


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DIY Engine Crossmember
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Can anyone make anything of that data plate? I figured some of it but not all.
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