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Old 02-25-2013, 08:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone installed the 67 style cable kickdown on a 65 with a C4? I was told that it would be easier than trying to convert my original 2 barrel kickdown for a new holley 4 barrel. I have the 67 pedal assembly installed with the kickdown strut. I would like to install it myself so I don't have to take it to the shop. Thanks.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, you were told wrong. The 65 bellcrank kickdown works perfectly with a Holley, unless you also used an intake manifold with no provision for attaching the bellcrank.

Since you already have the auto kickdown throttle, though, it would be a very simple matter to finish the job. This is Glazier/Nolan G06669 kickdown kit, has everything you need-

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I was actually told that by a couple people on this site...but I did get that kit, I just wanted to make sure that it would actually work before I started messing with stuff.
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That kit has everything you need to get the job done.

The bellcranks are all the same late 65 -68
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Awesome! Thanks for the help
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I was actually told that by a couple people on this site...
Strange, I've worked with countless numbers of Holleys on 64-65 Mustangs.
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How well will this kit work with a Edelbrock carb and a C4?

I've got nothing to start with, so I need it all as far as the kick down parts.

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I am curious on this Is the throttle you are using from the 67 the same as later say 69? Looks like the same hardware I have. Retained the throttle pedal from the 69 with the ( kick down strut ).. Is this the arm pointing down to the trans tunnel? Am I on the same page here?
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How well will this kit work with a Edelbrock carb and a C4?

I've got nothing to start with, so I need it all as far as the kick down parts.

Lynn
Since it uses the throttle linkage at the firewall, the carburetor and throttle rod have no effect- It will work perfectly. I have used Edelbrocks this way. You can rebend the rod for the Edelbrock, or simply use a 67-68 390 rod, stock spring, and 2V spring bracket.
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I am curious on this Is the throttle you are using from the 67 the same as later say 69? Looks like the same hardware I have. Retained the throttle pedal from the 69 with the ( kick down strut ).. Is this the arm pointing down to the trans tunnel? Am I on the same page here?
The 69-73 throttle is entirely different- while the 64-68 is bellcrank and pushrod, the 69-73 is cable. The 69-73 also uses a large, aluminum tube as a pushrod kickdown, attached to a lever on the carburetor. 64-68 carbs (on Mustangs) had no such lever.
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Since it uses the throttle linkage at the firewall, the carburetor and throttle rod have no effect- It will work perfectly. I have used Edelbrocks this way. You can rebend the rod for the Edelbrock, or simply use a 67-68 390 rod, stock spring, and 2V spring bracket.
I got this rod for my throttle linkage
http://www.cjponyparts.com/throttle-...64-1967/p/TR1/

and this for my return spring.

http://www.cjponyparts.com/accelerat...1966/p/HW1333/


Are you saying to bend the throttle rod or the one on the kick down linkage?

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I got this rod for my throttle linkage
Mustang Throttle Rod V8 1964-1967 | CJ Pony Parts

and this for my return spring.

C5ZZ-9741-C Mustang Accelerator Spring Bracket V8 4 Barrel 1965-1966 | CJ Pony Parts


Are you saying to bend the throttle rod or the one on the kick down linkage?

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I originally had this same linkage setup. Even at full throttle it wouldn't even hit the kickdown. That's why asked about it before and they said to go with the cable version. I think it's possible to put a little extension of it to make it work.
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I originally had this same linkage setup. Even at full throttle it wouldn't even hit the kickdown. That's why asked about it before and they said to go with the cable version. I think it's possible to put a little extension of it to make it work.
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Are you saying to bend the throttle rod or the one on the kick down linkage?
The Z in the throttle rod needs to be closer to the firewall when used with an Edelbrock. Either re-bend a smallblock throttle rod, or buy a 390 rod. That's the 4V spring bracket, you'll have to hammer the tar out of it to use it with an Edelbrock- I just use a 2V bracket instead.
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So use this rod and bracket?
Mustang Throttle Rod 390GT 428CJ Zinc Plated With Retaining Cli 1967-1968 | CJ Pony Parts
C5ZZ9741A Mustang Accelerator Spring Return Bracket 2 Barrel V8 1965-1968 | CJ Pony Parts
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