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Old 02-26-2013, 06:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Pulling hard to right

I am finally getting my Mustang on the road and its time to work out all the bugs.
The first problem is the alingment. On the first drive I notices it pulling to the right really bad.
The car has powersteering but no belt on the pump. So I assume it does not work, but all the lines are hooked up.
I did am alingment myself and got the front tires aligned with the rear.
But when driving the car if I let go of the wheel it will steer itself to the right, almost make a full rotation.
I jacked up the car and both front wheels spin freely so I don't believe its a stuck brake.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A front alignment is a little more precise than that. Lots of our members are adept at aligning their cars at home, but its really not very expensive to go to a shop and have it done.
Ask around at cruise ins who does good alignments on vintage cars.

Get a 4 wheel alignment. Its not unheard of that there could be aproblem out back.
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A front alignment is a little more precise than that. Lots of our members are adept at aligning their cars at home, but its really not very expensive to go to a shop and have it done.
Ask around at cruise ins who does good alignments on vintage cars.

Get a 4 wheel alignment. Its not unheard of that there could be aproblem out back.
Never thought of a rear issue.
My goal was really just to get it alligned enough to drive it to the shop and get done correctly.
I have never seen an allignment this bad. It makes me think there is something more going on.
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How did you do the alignment?
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How did you do the alignment?

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I attached a rope to the back of rear tire and run it to the front if the front tire.
And used that as gauge to get them lined up.
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Its possible there is more wrong than just alignment. Check all steering gear,ie idler arm, drag link, tie rods, UCAs, LCAs, ball joints, pitman arm, etc., for visible damage.

Get the car up on 4 ramps, get underneath and watch while someone else turns the steering wheel back and forth a 1/4 turn each way. You may pick up on something wrong this way.
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i have to ask - do both front tires have the same pressure in them?
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i have to ask - do both front tires have the same pressure in them?
I would say close enough that it wouldn't cause this kind of issue.
If I coast down my driveway, no breaks, the steering wheel makes a hard right actually turning the wheel.
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Its possible there is more wrong than just alignment. Check all steering gear,ie idler arm, drag link, tie rods, UCAs, LCAs, ball joints, pitman arm, etc., for visible damage.

Get the car up on 4 ramps, get underneath and watch while someone else turns the steering wheel back and forth a 1/4 turn each way. You may pick up on something wrong this way.
I crawled back under it and the good news most everything looks new.
Nothing worn out that I could see.
Good Idea about watching from underneath. That will be my next step.
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Reconnect the power steering. These cars are not designed to be driven without the belt on.
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Sticking REAR brake will do that, but in most cases it's a problem with a big difference in caster from one side to the other.
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Your Alignment angles can pull to the side with the most Camber or least Caster and your Right front tire could also be causing the pull. Those would be the Three most common causes for a pull. You could cross rotate the front tires (side to side) and see if it pulls left or drives straight to eliminate the front tires as the problem. For your Alignment to cause a hard pull those angles (Camber and Caster) would have to be very far out.

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Your Alignment angles can pull to the side with the most Camber or least Caster and your Right front tire could also be causing the pull. Those would be the Three most common causes for a pull. You could cross rotate the front tires (side to side) and see if it pulls left or drives straight to eliminate the front tires as the problem. For your Alignment to cause a hard pull those angles (Camber and Caster) would have to be very far out.
I'll give swapping the tires a try.
I do know the camber on the driver side is way off. When I bought the car the inner side of the tire was all worn down. I didn't know that camber would cause it to pull.
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There is no way you can know your alignment is correct going off those directions. Note the comment at the top of the page which I totally agree with.

You May Not Be Able To Do The Fine-Tuning, But At Least You’ll Make It To The Alignment Shop In One Piece

This is the tool I used and did my best but still it was not accurate when I drove it to the shop and had it done right which was only 39 dollars although finding a shop that knows what they are doing is the harder part. Even the Ford dealership did not know what they were doing.

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Take a close look at the strut rods. Anything loose or broken, even the rubber? Any sign that the fasteners have been fiddled with? The strut rods are your caster adjustments.
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