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Old 04-17-2013, 12:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Whats it worth?? Lincoln Versailles factory 9" rearend wiht factroy disc brakes

one of these just came it at the PNP yard. I know they used to be the thing to get, but havent heard much anymore. Whats one worth?
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Scrap value. I have dropped big bucks into mine since I started the build a long time ago. With all the newer brake options out now and conversion plates, don't even think about going Versailles. Even though they are a narrow housing, they are still 5/8" too wide on each side. And if you want to stuff some wide rubber, 5/8" might as well be 2".
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I used to be in the Granada, Monarch, Versailles club. Rear discs were standard on Vesailles and an option on Granada and Monarch. It was a neat cheap way to get rear disc brakes in the 90's for brag appeal. Heavy, obsolete parts, wierd set up etc. IMO scrap today.

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I scored one at the local yard a couple a months ago and sold it for $300 minus the hogshead.
And I agree that the brakes are obsolete, but there are still buyers for them out there. Just don't expect it to bring the stupid money they did years ago.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Somebody has/had one for sale here a couple of weeks ago. It was $125.
Decent rear end especially if you want a 9 inch Fomoco rear. The rotors were hard to find, now you can get them. Calipers are rebuildable and/or available form most parts stores. just don't expect them to be in-stock.
The key to the value is how much rust rash does the case have? If it would look like-new with just a paint job, you have something.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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A big part of so called value is does anyone want one? Then if they do he/she better be close because you can't ship a rear axle assembly UPS or FedEx.
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Even though more parts are now available, the design of the caliper still sucks! The ratchet mechanism is too wide for the auto adjust to work efficiently, so you have little to no parking brake until the pad wears down more.
And not to mention they are heavy as a tank.
And yes, this is coming from a guy that is going to use his. Temporarily. I'll give it a year or two and do the conversion to SN95 calipers.
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I've written on this subject several times. And the Versailles rear is still
a PITA. Particularly the parking brake mechanism inside the caliper.
It'll never work right because it wasn't designed right.

Versaille 9

Mine doesn't even work right.
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50 in that size)

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Right now, clean iron and steel has very little scrap value. Contaminated cast iron even less. The chunk would be useful as a rebuildable core, but it's nothing special or heavy duty. The rest would make a decent anchor for a swim platform or sailboat mooring. The Versailles rear discs are a cheap, production set-up not geared toward performance applications.
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In 1977 the Versailles could make the claim of being equipped, standard with almost everything availible at the time. It came with cornering lights, 4 wheel disc brakes, quadrasonic high fidility stereo, leather (genuine leather) seats (the full seats), leather dash pad, 351 engine...you name it. It was a 4500 pound mid size car...by no means intended to be sporty!
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It depends on your location also. Around here a nice one, clean and not rusted up or worn out still brings over $400.
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The powder necessary to blow it up would be worth more.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:33 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The best value for the rear end is to stick it on an early Mustang, never hook up all the garbage, and sell it as a project with

9" DISK BRAKE REAR END ALREADY INSTALLED !

to some poor soul who does not realize what a pain these are to make fully functional.

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Personal note...never buy a used car from Mustangerbob1.
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OK, So with reading all the bad about a Versailles rear end, I decided not to use the one I have, so what year Explorer should I be looking for? Pick & Pull has a special going this weekend of 15% of everything pulled, If I am going to spend money on making something work, I might as well sell the Versailles rear for what ever I can get for it and use something updated. So tell me guys what to start with.
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