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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-15-2019, 05:15 PM Thread Starter
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Help with 1969 FB rebuild

So I have ventured into the world of restoring/rebuilding a 69 fastback. I will say that I have been around cars most of my life as my father was an auto body shop owner for over 40 years. I worked for him in the summers and after school as well. We also rebuilt a 72 Mach 1 in 1993. I’m ready to do it again. I found my car with a lot of the frame work done except the quarter panels and trunk area. My dilemma is this....the passenger side quarter has been removed along with the wheelhouse. The trunk floor drops and rear brace is out as well. The tail panel has been welded in but floating on the sides and bottom. I noticed while had fitting the trunk brace the tail panel is about 3 inches lower than the driver side. I did some measuring of the frame rails and they are parallel to each other. My thought is when the quarter panel was cut off the passenger side it dropped a little. All the replacing and cutting was done before I bought the car. I guess my question is what is the correct way to confirm it’s just the rear of the quarter panel sagging? Did the way I measur it confirm that is the case or should I check some other reference point? Also what’s the correct way to raise that area back up. The quarter panel and wheel house has not been replaced yet. I do not plan to take this to a factory condition. I want to fix it correctly, but this is not a show car. It’s going to be a summer driver and I’ve never been so excited to learn. Any help would be so appreciated
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Sounds like a task not meant for the faint of heart. You going to have to get that car level and then either find a manual with all the measurements are see if a member here can help with them. Sounds like you really already know that but that's a tough job to follow up someone's work. Good luck with it. Keep posting, I like to read through the builds as I'm doing a couple of 66's.

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Good luck, you have quite a journey ahead of you.

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Agreed, quite a journey! I expect this to be at least a 2 year project. I have the shop manual and have printed the frame measurements page for reference. The car was delivered this past weekend and I plan to level and confirm dimension this weekend. Is there any topics here on proper leveling or locations to level from? Thank you for the help. Oh and I added my location...
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Now that I have confirmed the right rear was just sagging due to the previous owner cutting out so much structure I’ve taken some time to mock up the wheel house and quarter. I am waiting for the trunk floor to arrive, but I wanted to make a plan in my head how I should tackle the quarter scoops cutouts. My thought was to make a template on the driver side which is still intact and translate to the other side once the quarter skin is attached. Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Now that I have confirmed the right rear was just sagging due to the previous owner cutting out so much structure Iíve taken some time to mock up the wheel house and quarter. I am waiting for the trunk floor to arrive, but I wanted to make a plan in my head how I should tackle the quarter scoops cutouts. My thought was to make a template on the driver side which is still intact and translate to the other side once the quarter skin is attached. Any thoughts or suggestions?
A template sounds good to me. There are going to be several issues, like the recessed area at the front edge, and the entire cutout is rolled inward (is that the term?) for added strength.



Once you get all your parts, either tack or screw stuff together. Place your trunk lid in place, bumper in place, and anything else to make sure all the parts still fit and are in the right place.

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I installed the fender door and deck lid to ensure I am getting the body lines fitted and also the quarter extension.

I have the donor scoop mount cut out from the old quarter panel. It still has the front section of the quarter that wraps around the door pillar. I am thinking I either use that to make the transition easier with that lowered front edge or cut it clean at that lowered edge. And should I wait until the quarter is final fitted and welded in place to add the scoop mount?
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So I fitted the trunk floor and it went it smooth(well smoother than I expected&#x1f60a, but I still have an issue and cannot tell what I should do next. Something is misaligned and I cannot pin point what it is. Again the frame is definitely straight, but something is off. I raised the driver side rear and get the tail panel to level across but it’s then too high. The rear valence holes are low about 3/8 inch on the rear trunk brace.
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The interesting part is the side I think is sagging is actually closer to the right spot. The driver side that still has wheel house and quarter in tact are actually sitting high
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Trying to figure out all the sag and stuff I realized it’s not that bad. What it was is the CJ pony trunk is wrong. I figured this out because I have just the drops that came with the purchase of car and compared them to the CJ kit. The CJ’s are at least an inch short. Kind of frustrating in that it’s one thing to have to trim here or there, but to have to replace them is another, but at least I have spares to make the modification to make it right. And everything is in place and correct.
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Things are moving along now...I bought a new welder to help with butt welding the quarter on. I only had a flux core with min/max heat and I was blowing through. I do have a copper plate that is backing the butt joint all the way down, but I want to ensure I get good welds and also minimize the work to grind when it is completely welded. I will have some massaging to do at the end where the extension meets up, but in all things are coming together as expected.
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