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My name is Quinn. I'm 17 and live in Los Angeles, California. I picked up my '67 for a decent price in June 2014. The condensed plan is to make her a reliable daily driver over the course of the next year or so.

My school does not offer a single automotive or mechanical class despite being one of the higher level public schools in Los Angeles. While I could have just gotta a '90s Japanese car for a daily driver, I'm really striving to actually learn everything I can about automotive maintenance and restoration. I genuinely enjoy the experience, but I haven't had many opportunities to work on older cars until recently. The most complicated thing I've done until recently was rebuilding a carburetor for a '75 Honda ST90.

My family has had quite a long history with Mustangs. That's was not the driving force behind me wanting to get one, but it's still cool. My mom's first car was a '65. My dad had a '67 and '68 in high school. My grandfather bought a '66 new and he still has a '70 Convertible that he's owned since ~'71. My other set of grandparents claim to have used a '65 Fastback for their wedding too. So that's just a bit of family history you guys might find amusing, if I can find any pics of the cars I'll post them.

The goal for this car is reliability first, power second. That's the condensed version. I have no experience with a blowtorch but if I can find a class at a local college or somewhere to learn, I'd definitely look into installing various supports onto the car. But for now, I'm going to be working primarily on the engine/drivetrain followed by interior.

This will be a very picture heavy thread. I'm primarily using my iPhone to take pictures and uploading them to imgur. While a lot of what I'm doing may be obvious and simple to the more experience members here, it's great for me to have reference for everything I've done and I'm documenting it in a way that if I had to do it again, I could without much trouble.

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Day One - June 26th, 2014

After spending the last several months searching, I finally found a '67 for a decent price and almost rust free. I had called on and looked several different '67s and '68s and they were all either rust buckets or they had the VIN sanded off.




She wasn't running (well... kind of was, had been sitting for a decade). So she needed a bunch of mechanical work, but the body was strong with the exception of the passenger side quarter panel.


The floors and the bottom of the car were all solid and original. So even as just a rolling shell, it was very sound.

Here's what the 6 cylinder looked like when we got it. As you can see, it's seen better days.



She's fairly beat up and the odometer has definitely rolled over at least once, maybe twice. But she's mine and great first project car.


I'm able to trace the history back about 15 years with various paperwork. It looks like the car was hit in the rear quarter panel and that was replaced. It was probably stripped to be prepared for paint and then garaged. The interior is absolutely bare with the exceptions of seats and the instrument panel. The car was built in Dearborn, shipped to Chicago, then brought to California in the early 70s (judging by the license plate number).

Here's the Marti Report. She's a bottom of the line T code with six "options." But hey, at least I won't feel guilty about changing everything.

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AWESOME car, even more of an awesome first car Have fun with it, make it what you want it to be and hang onto it if you can, you will miss it if you ever sell! Good luck and post up updates when you can!

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The next chapter of our epic is about engines.

Engine #1
This... could've gone a little better. As the pictures posted above can clearly indicate, the 6 needed quite a bit of work to run. This included a new gas tank and new carburetor. Well... it had a rod knock and some compression issues. So the hunt for the second engine begins!

Engine #2
Well, now's the time to upgrade to a V8. My grandfather (the one with the convertible) had a '64 Ranchero that he'd been using for parts for his '64 Falcon Wagon. Well, it had a 289 V8 that was connected and appears to have come off of an A code Mustang (judging by the numbers on the manifold).

Here are the two next to each other. The Ranchero was a failed restoration project that my grandfather got for a relatively decent price. The engine had already been repainted and appeared it had been gone through already. The rust on the body was fixed properly so we assumed it would work.


Well, several cylinders aren't firing and the compression is all over the place. It hasn't been dismantled yet but it's running really really poorly, presumably a cracked block or damaged piston. Something along those lines.


Engine #3
This is the 3rd and final engine. I posted some questions about what it would take to install a 302 or 351w in a '67, and VMF member pwrecker0 offered to sell me a 302 he had pulled out of his Mustang. He only lived about 30 minutes away and I jumped on the opportunity.




There's seven more pictures here: Mustang Engine - Album on Imgur

This engine actually ran properly. It needs a few things here or there but as a whole, we finally have a running drivable vehicle. This is how I spent my July, August, and early September unfortunately. It was a real bummer having so many engine issues but it all works out in the end. From here on out, I should be able to do most of the work myself.

This is a picture from March 2015

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At this point in time, she's a 302 V8 3 speed automatic running on 6 cylinder running gear. Now it's a game of priorities. First things first, cover this stupid skull heart stencils and exposed metal on the quarter panel.




This here is the biggest issue the car faces. This quarter panel is not original, it's off of a red '67 (and this car was never red). The car has a junkyard drum on the passenger rear and somebody at some point did a terrible job replacing it. The C pillar is filled with cracking bondo and I might have to replace the whole quarter panel. Fortunately it's not going anywhere and I'll deal with that at a later date.



However, I did go over the door and quarter panel with a can of primer to make it look better. I can't be driving to school with heart skulls on my car!


There's some more close up pictures here.
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This is also on the list of things to address. I don't think they are bullet holes but they give off that appearance.


AYou have to learn from your mistakes right? On the bright side, at least I know how drum brakes work now!

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1967 Galaxie Wagon w/ 289 2bbl
1972 Honda CL350 - Parked since 1978 in a barn.
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cvery cool but be sure to update the front suspension and all brakes for the larger v-8

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Rustbuckets in California? Ever see rust belt rustbucket?


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Now is the time that I began to define my goals. I want to keep the car true to it's origins as much as I can, at least on the outside. My goal for the most part is to avoid adding anything that can't easily be removed (body mods for example). A few things here or there like a passenger mirror are fair game, but I ultimately want a sleek vehicle rather than a chromed out pinned striped subwoofered one. Everybody's style is unique and I can respect people's decisions, they just aren't for me.

At this point, I'm still quite a ways off from paint but I can still build up the car with paint in mind. I want a dark blue that makes the chrome stand out. Probably either Nightmist Blue or BMWs dark blue.

This was one eBay a while back and I messaged the seller about the color. I saved all the pics from the listing but this is one of the better pics. It's a few steps up from black but it's dark enough to have a very nice sleek look. I'm not a fan of the Billit grill, but I digress.


This is around the time that I found a turn signal hood with the inserts and wiring for $125. It has a little surface rust underneath but nothing that can be sand blasted away when it comes time for paint. That'll be sitting in the garage until it's time to prep the car (I've already got a door and quarter panel the wrong color, the hood can stay blue).

While I was waiting for the mechanic to finish installing the 3rd engine, I was amassing some parts. As soon as I got her back, I swapped the steering wheel. This car does not have power steering mind you, a small steering wheel like this just doesn't cut it.


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Rustbuckets in California? Ever see rust belt rustbucket?
You'd be surprised. The car I ended up purchasing is shockingly rust free but some of these had the entire floor pans falling off and frame rails missing. There was a car that was rusted and damaged so badly that the battery was sitting several inches into the fender. It's LA and there are a lot of cars around here, so it's bound to happen occasionally. Haha

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cvery cool but be sure to update the front suspension and all brakes for the larger v-8
Yessir. I'm under the impression that suspension, at least spring wise is fine with a V8 because it's only a ~200 pound weight difference. Brakes and the rear end are going to be addressed (I've still got several months of info to post!).
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Front Brakes and Wheels

Between getting the car and the week of Thanksgiving, I met a third or fourth cousin who lives nearby and is a mechanic. After speaking to him and doing some research on my own, I bought a kit from CSRP for power disc brakes. Admittedly, there was quite a bit of hand holding through this process. However, I feel confident that if I had to do it again that I would be able to on my own. Due to the nature and importance of brakes, it's probably better somebody helped me.
Before and after.



The difference is amazing. I don't have to make room in my schedule if I want to stop!

So naturally, with five lug brakes you need five lug wheels. My grandfather (again, the one with the 'Vert) had a set of Magnum 500s that he wasn't using. He said that he was looking to get a new set of tires and found a second set of Magnum 500s for a good price with new tires. So that's what I've got. The only issue is that the tires are from 1987.



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At this point it's mid January. I've had a few issues with the ignition here and there but overall the car is sound. Let me provide some background information. Remember that '64 Ranchero? Well it had a dual exhaust and we used those pipes on my car. Well, the pipes were dumps that let out under the back seats. And that means that I got a nice does of exhaust fumes every time I drove her. So that needed to be addressed. I found a local exhaust place who handled it for ~$200. They raised the pipes up about 4 inches closer to the body (they would hit the ground when going over speed bumps), ran them over the rear and out the back, and put chrome tips on them.

Unfortunately I don't have any before pictures, but this is what was done.




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really nice work. 17 YO? if that beast dont get you some dates nothing will.

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really nice work. 17 YO? if that beast dont get you some dates nothing will.
Haha It's not as "spontaneous" as you think. I've got people wanting to race me in their 4 cylinder Camrys. Just goes to show that most people my age don't even know what they are looking at. But at least I'm practically guaranteed a page in the yearbook senior year!

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