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Thunder revisited - 67 Pro-touring fastback

Since they didn't have build threads here at VMF when I started the project, quite a few years ago. I thought I'd start one as I revisit a lot of major components and systems on the car.

So the car has been driven a lot, except in the past year or so, while I've been tied up in a major home renovation (where I did the work myself.) That is almost completed thankfully.
So that means back to the 'stang.

As I drove it, there were a number of things that cropped up, which either bothered me, or were minor issues, or when I drove the car hard at the track, became issues.

So some of the things which will be happening;
Seats; I had cobra seats, with period upholstery done. I don't like these seats for the track and kind of don't like them for driving. They are destined to be redone.
Suspension; Everything is good except for the rear. After the bilstiein shock absorber broke, I think it's binding, so may be going to Shaun's 3 link.
Transmission; I am changing the 5 speed to a 6 speed. I wish that I'd never let anyone talk me out of a 6 speed. I want the 6 speed for driveability on the fairly fast highways and intermediate freeways around here.
Steering; The borgeson unit has been good, but I want something tighter for freeway driving, cornering and header clearance. It's going to be a rack, with power or electric assist.
Electrical; After my alarm system bit the dust, I am adding a new alarm with gps tracking and revamping the power door lock and trunk lock system, along with some needed electrical system work. (That is happening right now)
Rattles; I am going through the body and chassis, on a rattle elimination mission, wish me luck.
Exhaust; With the larger more powerful motor, the 2 1/2" exhaust and mufflers do not cut it. They are too loud inside the car when cruising and too restrictive. Look for a pair of varex mufflers and a complete custom 3"/oval/stainless system to tuck under the lowered chassis.

There is more, like a brand new custom center console with the raised tunnel for the 6 speed.

The good thing, is I am more patient and skilled now, so expect my work to be a much higher quality

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Lots of fun wiring things up on the alarm tonight.
Even though it is the same manufacturer, a lot of the wiring seems to be different.

After wiring up the nice relay panel (shown) it seems that the new alarm uses a ground (-) to trigger the lock circuit(s)
So I had to take everything apart and resolder it again.

All the extra trigger links seem to be not exactly as described, so instead of using them I ended up setting up the trunk and hood sensors on the same circuit (which means I end up having 5-6 additional unused wires)
No big deal, it's an old car (lol)

So after working all night, I have everything all working, power door locks, power trunk, alarm shock sensor, doors etc.\
except for the parking light flash. I can hear the relays clicking, but no lights. Maybe a fuse or something else. I'll check tomorrow.

The GPS module is just a plug in, so expect that to work easily, once I have it all working.
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Hello Ripped,

Will a 6spd trans fit , or do you have to modify trans tunnel mate. Reason I ask is I'm restoring a 70 Mach 1 and looking at either a 5 or 6spd, concern that you have to modify tunnel for 6spd to fit.

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Can you provide manufacturer details on the GPS alarm?


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Hello Ripped,

Will a 6spd trans fit , or do you have to modify trans tunnel mate. Reason I ask is I'm restoring a 70 Mach 1 and looking at either a 5 or 6spd, concern that you have to modify tunnel for 6spd to fit.

Rgs Jason.
The 6 speed will require tunnel modifications. Add to that I will have to redo my custom console. I expect it to be a lot of work

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The GPS system I am using is the compustar drone.

I had a compustar alarm before. It quite working so I went with the new version, assuming that the wiring was similar. The wiring was a little different, but in a lot of ways compatable, other than having to add relays for lights, the power trunk release and door locks.


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I spent a few days making some cribbing and got to work.

Removing the exhaust and trans, was not too bad. There is a lot of attention needed in routine maintenance and clean up under the chassis.

I like having the car up nice and high. I could possibly go another 12", but I do not think I will. It would be difficult to open the hood and trunk, without hitting the garage ceiling, then.

I didn't want any accidents while wrestling the trans out, plus there was a minor earthquake (so I am told) in the area yesterday. I added cross bracing an tied in all four corners.

Maybe I'll make or buy a creeper now
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What did you use to jack it that high ?

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I made a platform for the floor jack, plus some skirting to keep the jack from taking off. It's quite heavy, and I had some extra wheels, so I used them, and can wheel it around the car.
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I love your car; is the Compustar better than a LoJack?


Did you minitub your car? Does it retain the original interior?

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I love your car; is the Compustar better than a LoJack?


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Thanks.

I am not sure if the compustar is better. I used it from wiring comparability with the earlier computer alarm in my car.

Yeah there are some threads many years old. I'll try and post some pics when I get back from holiday and have net access. The stock interior has been maintained as well.


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I will check the Compustar out myself. The problem with LoJack is that their coverage area is pretty limited. They don't even have service here in Kentucky.

Did my own mini-tubs because I want to use original interior. If I was to do it over again though I might look at Mustangs to Fear tubs. They are supposed to fit without screwing up your interior.
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Such a beautiful car. Honestly it was seeing a picture of your car a few years ago that made me decide it was time to stop putting it off and find a fastback to build. In the car culture dictionary if you look up "perfect stance" I am pretty sure a picture of your car will be there.

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I will check the Compustar out myself. The problem with LoJack is that their coverage area is pretty limited. They don't even have service here in Kentucky.

Did my own mini-tubs because I want to use original interior. If I was to do it over again though I might look at Mustangs to Fear tubs. They are supposed to fit without screwing up your interior.
Congrats on doing your own mini tubs.

When I did mine, I moved them in 1.25" which allowed me to keep the fold down seat mechanism and trim panels stock, with only a small mod to the fold down seat side catches.

Stretching the rear quarters was altogether a different thing.

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Such a beautiful car. Honestly it was seeing a picture of your car a few years ago that made me decide it was time to stop putting it off and find a fastback to build. In the car culture dictionary if you look up "perfect stance" I am pretty sure a picture of your car will be there.

Looking forward to following along.
Thanks very much for the kind words Ryan. Like you I was inspired by a number of members here too.

I looked at your build thread and love what you've done. I especially like the rear valance mods (something I thought about lately) and the console and tablet incorporation are very innovative.
You've got a beautiful car!

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Thanks.

I am not sure if the compustar is better. I used it from wiring comparability with the earlier computer alarm in my car.

Yeah there are some threads many years old. I'll try and post some pics when I get back from holiday and have net access. The stock interior has been maintained as well.
What size tires do you have in the rear?

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What size tires do you have in the rear?
They are 315/35/17

I might be able to go a little bigger if I went to Street or Track 3- link or A TCP system , but the leaf springs on the inside are the limiting factor, right now.
I have 1.5"+ clearance on the outside fender lip, and 2"+ on the inside. They've never rubbed.

When I was mocking it up, a friend gave me a 335 to use for fitment purposes, but I could not stretch the rear quarters that much without making it look obvious.


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