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WTB 7L date coded 428 Engine or block

Looking for a 7L date coded 428 or 390 engine or block. Have complete 9A 428 Cobra Jet engine (it is completely disassembled but complete) willing to trade plus cash. I am located in central Florida area.
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I have a december 19, 1967 428 cj block. Is that too late ? Sent you a private message too. Thanks, vanscooter
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vanscooter, thanks for the info but no, your block is too late. The car is a 1967 Shelby GT500 built November 27, 1967.
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No problem. I was guessing GT 500 or 135 car was what it is needed for.

Is your 428 cj engine for sale separately ?

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did the 500 use C scratch blocks or A scratch blocks? obviously the 135 cars used CJ blocks as they were CJ cars but 67 500's used A scratch blocks, seems odd that 68 500's that used 390 heads and exhaust manifolds would use CJ blocks when nothing else about them was CJ?
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Bsolo66, do you mean 68 GT 500 instead of 67 ? November 67 would be a 68 car.

MustangBillsInc I think you are right with A scratch blocks, the CJ blocks were after april 68 for the shelbys
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did the 500 use C scratch blocks or A scratch blocks? obviously the 135 cars used CJ blocks as they were CJ cars but 67 500's used A scratch blocks, seems odd that 68 500's that used 390 heads and exhaust manifolds would use CJ blocks when nothing else about them was CJ?
That is because the C scratch block is not CJ specific. The "reinforced" block ( noted by foundry workers with a "C" scratch on the bellhousing area) was a running change that happened before the '68 model year cars were built. My friend Kerry has seen them with June casting dates.
Incorrectly assuming people have coined the "C" scratch as meaning CJ when it is NOT , but all 428CJ engines DID use that block as the "A" scratch ( to allow foundry workers to ID a big bore block casting) was phased out by January or so. To confuse the issue even more we have seen "A" scratched reinforced web blocks. It is important to note NONE of the scratch marks are indicated on Ford manufacturing blueprints. This was an internal ID method used by casting plant workers ONLY. We have done a large amount of research on this subject on the 428CJ forum including former Ford Motor Co employee participation and access to the original blueprints.
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That is because the C scratch block is not CJ specific. The "reinforced" block ( noted by foundry workers with a "C" scratch on the bellhousing area) was a running change that happened before the '68 model year cars were built. My friend Kerry has seen them with June casting dates.
Incorrectly assuming people have coined the "C" scratch as meaning CJ when it is NOT , but all 428CJ engines DID use that block as the "A" scratch ( to allow foundry workers to ID a big bore block casting) was phased out by January or so. To confuse the issue even more we have seen "A" scratched reinforced web blocks. It is important to note NONE of the scratch marks are indicated on Ford manufacturing blueprints. This was an internal ID method used by casting plant workers ONLY. We have done a large amount of research on this subject on the 428CJ forum including former Ford Motor Co employee participation and access to the original blueprints.
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Bsolo66, do you mean 68 GT 500 instead of 67 ? November 67 would be a 68 car.

MustangBillsInc I think you are right with A scratch blocks, the CJ blocks were after april 68 for the shelbys
vanscooter, yes it is a 1968...my bad. I had 67 on my brain. The car is #243. I am listing this for a good friend, he is going to go thru all the parts and get the info requested. He did say all the date codes do match.
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I am interested. Thanks
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Well, my buddy just told me his brother bought the 428CJ motor (family first I guess). Sorry guys, I did not know this was coming. He is still looking for a 7L date coded 428 engine or block.
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I've had questions about build dates for the 7L engine or block my buddy is looking for. Here is the Marti info;
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I know of a 7L28 for $2500 machined I believe standard bore , I have his name / # if interested. PM me

I have a C scratch 428 with 8B17 all machined .060 with mains/pistons/rods $1800 Was going to let this go with my 68 Shelby GT500 when sold. Release date 8B26, but if someone needs I would let it go.


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